Titan Extreme mode - no melee allowed. Thx SE.

[Ronyx]

yeah on Ifirt I guess mages are more desireable specially because of Meteor LB, but I guess it has to be that way. Some fights mages are better and some not. Some fights melee are better some are not. Otherwise people would have any reason to level classes that wouldnt work on any kinda of fights. There must be a balance.

[Nihility]

yeah on Ifirt I guess mages are more desireable specially because of Meteor LB, but I guess it has to be that way. Some fights mages are better and some not. Some fights melee are better some are not. Otherwise people would have any reason to level classes that wouldnt work on any kinda of fights. There must be a balance.

i suppose that would be good if your suicidal since extreme mode nails explode and do damage and a nasty debuff on everyone forcing you to do one at a time.
Truth is though the most effective strategy for ifrit doesn't really matter on the dps comp too much since the majority of the fight they're stacked on his butt and running as a group for eruptions and the only downside for melee is the chaining one to the offtank from time to time during nails which is easily remedied by saving the ones directly on top of him for last

[Tears-of-Death]

yeah on Ifirt I guess mages are more desireable specially because of Meteor LB, but I guess it has to be that way. Some fights mages are better and some not. Some fights melee are better some are not. Otherwise people would have any reason to level classes that wouldnt work on any kinda of fights. There must be a balance.

You do NOT want meteor on a fight that will punish and kill you all for it.

I've been the only range in multiple clears for Titan and Ifrit Ex, it makes NO difference. If anything BLM is the worst in Titan but only marginally, and everyone is equally as useful in Ifrit.

Actually that is inaccurate. Well versed Black Mages can outperform anyone because they bring some amazing burst to gaol dps breaks and can still outmaneuver annoying mechanics like Landslide with Manawall at the right phases makes them just as good as melee if not better.

The only useless player on this fight is a player that can't play due to connection. All of these EM fights aren't that much harder than their HM counter parts. They just require the right amount of tactics and smart play. Something that has been lost on groups with the previous models of play.

The only ironic part of all of this is that some of the relics are still insanely better than the reward from doing them all. Though their new sparkling jewelry makes up for it and not as much of a loot margin with weapons dropping too.teor on Ifrit EM. It will wipe your group, slow and steady wins the race on Ifrit EM.

[NeonC]

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I do not doubt it at all, in fact I assume as more blm's get accustomed to the fight their dps will greatly increase. It is more of an anecdotal situation, as I see blm's under performing dps wise and complaining of high movement fights.

[Noahlimits]

yeah on Ifirt I guess mages are more desireable specially because of Meteor LB, but I guess it has to be that way. Some fights mages are better and some not. Some fights melee are better some are not. Otherwise people would have any reason to level classes that wouldnt work on any kinda of fights. There must be a balance.

I'm guessing you haven't actually done Ifrit EX. You can't use meteor on nails anymore due to a fire vulnerability killing a nail gives, in addition to a AOE pulse. If you limit break 4+ nails it will wipe your entire party. They purposely did this to prevent this tactic.

[SilverRhythm]

yeah on Ifirt I guess mages are more desireable specially because of Meteor LB, but I guess it has to be that way. Some fights mages are better and some not. Some fights melee are better some are not. Otherwise people would have any reason to level classes that wouldnt work on any kinda of fights. There must be a balance.

Correction, you would not want a Meteor LB in Ifrit Extreme LMAO. Wipes the whole party if you cast that.