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  1. #71
    Player Hrist_Valkyrie's Avatar
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    Ingrid Randgrior
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Krystalynn View Post
    Why should we?
    Because we're the reason you even have a successful game. Imagine of SE only catered to the VERY small fraction of like minded individuals such as yourself. The fact of the matter is you need money to cover production costs. Did that ever cross your mind?

    Oooo it must burn you so that someone on a PS3 can potentially out preform you on your 1000+ dollar machine.

    Using your skewed logic I can blame people like you for having to put up with RMT Bots. On a console this would rarely, if at all, happen. I mean I would LOVE to have a nice conversation in a city state or see what the community at large is up to but nope. PC RMT Bots.

    I'm SURE SE would have LOVED to suffer another loss but as long as we have belts it's ok right?

    We'll leave the light on for you.
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  2. #72
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    Avalon_Albrook's Avatar
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    Avalon Albrook
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    And this is where people like you fail, you assume he's using his personal preference. You have to compare with 0 skill, ie without human influence, which would be better. You could even use equal skill, but with no player involvement one will always be better than the other for a given game. That's where his arguments about handicaps come from.

    So no, it's not crap. If a game just simply works better with one control method over another, without taking player skill into account, then yes, one control method WILL be gimp. By how much? That depends on the game and how much it's compensated for.
    LOL. If the game was designed and optimized to be used with a PS3 and therefore a controller just as much as it is for a PC, then it is a crap argument. It comes down to personal preference only. To suggest otherwise is condescension on your part just as much as his.
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    Last edited by Avalon_Albrook; 01-06-2014 at 01:29 PM.

  3. #73
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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon_Albrook View Post
    LOL. If the game was designed and optimized to be used with a PS3 and therefore a controller just as much as it is for a PC, then it is a crap argument. It comes down to personal preference only. To suggest otherwise is condescension on your part just as much as his.
    If you knew how much was put into the game to work around a controllers difficulties with this type of game, you wouldn't say that. This is what I mean, when something just works for a given system, and you have to modify, adapt and make workarounds for something else, it means one is clearly superior to the other. It's like an FPS on controller or KB/M. With KB/M you just point and shoot. With a controller you can't get that same precision and most if not all controller based FPS games have some sort of aim correction. This game isn't an FPS for sure, but the workarounds to make a controller useable are evident. You might prefer controller for that type of game, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean it's equal to KB/M.

    Not, i'm not against people who use controllers. If they play well, who cares. But that doesn't change if one is better than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon_Albrook View Post
    LOL. If the game was designed and optimized to be used with a PS3 and therefore a controller just as much as it is for a PC, then it is a crap argument. It comes down to personal preference only. To suggest otherwise is condescension on your part just as much as his.
    Optimized for PS3 so its drastically under par for PC. That is not something I would give praise about.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    Optimized for PS3 so its drastically under par for PC. That is not something I would give praise about.
    He meant the controls, not the graphics.
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  6. #76
    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Murakumo Millennium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    idk I play on both and don't have any issues really other than the slow loading time. But I use a controller on PC. I can't imagine how people play this game with keyboard and mouse lol.
    The way people play with keyboard and mouse? The answer to that would be competently and efficiently. I mean, if you like being able to just click your targets instead of that herp derp method the controller uses to scroll through everything. Or the lightning fast turning speed of a mouse instead of that (strangely enough) "keyboard turning" speed the controller does it at. Or the ability to have dozens of keybinds at your fingertips instead of scrolling through that small, limited number cross hotbar cluster@#$%.

    Sure, you don't need to use a keyboard and mouse to get the job done. You don't need an engine in your car either. Just bolt a sail to it and hope the wind is blowing the right way. You'll get to where you're going eventually, even if it is slow and ineffective. Who cares if you're slowing down traffic if you enjoy sailing a car?
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    Last edited by MurakumoMillennium; 01-06-2014 at 01:52 PM.

  7. #77
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    Senfei's Avatar
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    Kaga Koyagi
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    Samurai Lv 70
    The PS3 is old, and out of date. This game will either have to support it forever, or drop it solely in favor of the PS4 after a year or two (I'm hoping for this). It has nothing to do with disdain for PS3 players, I love that people on consoles are making my world bigger. It's nothing against them.

    I just don't want my graphics to never be improved, for areas never to get bigger, etc etc because we have to be held back by an antiquated console system that plays the game on low settings as is. Surely, you can understand this mentality even as a proud PS3 player.
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  8. #78
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Azran Hayat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan061111 View Post
    At the end of the day an average to good ps3 player is better than a bad to average PC player. Skill means mote than the system you play on.
    What are you even trying to say here? You essentially just confirmed PC>PS3 so what is your point
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  9. #79
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    Kyriea's Avatar
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium View Post
    You don't need an engine in your car either. Just bolt a sail to it and hope the wind is blowing the right way. You'll get to where you're going eventually, even if it is slow and ineffective. Who cares if you're slowing down traffic if you enjoy sailing a car?
    Playing on a PS3 is not slow or ineffective if you play it right. If you can't do it right then more fool you. Technically the PS3 is a car without a shell, but it still has the basic engine to make it go - yes it can be a bit cold to drive at times and sometimes unpleasant to look at but when driven right it's just as effective if not faster than a car with a shell.
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  10. #80
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    Archer Lv 50
    no issues with ps3. if u suck it doesnt matter which platform u play on. just saying.
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