Please make a separated DUTY FINDER for experienced/completed players only!

[EternityFate]

They already made it. It's called the Party Finder.

Yes i agree 100% with you ^^ but the problem is their say "i'm experienced" but die in the first landslide of titan lol

[learntoswim]

Everybody is a noob at some point. Elitist players like you who look down upon other players for being new or not having the best gear are just as annoying as said noobs who die repeatedly. I actually hate getting paired in groups with players like you just as much, if not more, than you hate getting paired with noobs (which I might be considered). But this segregated duty finder is a terrible idea. It is better to have experienced players mixed in with the noobs during duties to help them otherwise noobs would have no idea what to do sometimes. That's my opinion anyway....

[EternityFate]

Everybody is a noob at some point. Elitist players like you who look down upon other players for being new or not having the best gear are just as annoying as said noobs who die repeatedly. I actually hate getting paired in groups with players like you just as much, if not more, than you hate getting paired with noobs (which I might be considered). But this segregated duty finder is a terrible idea. It is better to have experienced players mixed in with the noobs during duties to help them otherwise noobs would have no idea what to do sometimes. That's my opinion anyway....

Yes i understand ^^ is like you said everybody is a noob at some point(i'm one example lol) but this issue never will be fixed ^^ even with party finder or duty finder for completed/experienced because players aways lie no mater what.

[OmegaFlare]

Everybody is a noob at some point. Elitist players like you who look down upon other players for being new or not having the best gear are just as annoying as said noobs who die repeatedly. I actually hate getting paired in groups with players like you just as much, if not more, than you hate getting paired with noobs (which I might be considered). But this segregated duty finder is a terrible idea. It is better to have experienced players mixed in with the noobs during duties to help them otherwise noobs would have no idea what to do sometimes. That's my opinion anyway....

Then you're really forcing the experienced players to stick around and be patient and teach the noobs. That's good if the experienced players want to help. But what if they don't want to help and have limited time and just want to get the duty done with asap? If you give an option to the exp players to either group with other exp players only or with anyone then any exp player who wants to help will not check that option and will be grouped with just anyone. For those who just want a party of exp players to play with, they can select that option. Give players options is all I'm asking.

You're creating a lot of problems/frictions between players when the exp players who do not want help are forced to group with noobs. The group will either vote kick the noob or the exp player will leave and the whole group will disband forcing everyone to requeue. This will frustrate new players who just want to practice in df without having someone rage quitting after a wipe or so. Tanks have instant queue times but not for dps.

[SarcasmMisser]

Experienced doesn't equal good. There are still plenty of experienced players who can't play a primal for squat. I'm one of them... I've played HM Garuda like 5-6 times and I still don't know how to MT it. I can OT it just fine. Go figure *shrug* I haven't actually played any extremes at all yet, but I still think I'll do just fine once I do try them. It's not always so cut and dry as to who can play well based on New vs. Experienced.

First post accuracy. I think there is a gap between having cleared it before and being decent enough for a farm. There are so many people who scrape through EM primals once who cannot repeat it consistently, not to mention people who have bought runs.

I honestly feel like having a rant about this because its a really frustrating thing but ill be concise instead: pretty much every player out there knows the script, but few know what to do when the fight goes off the script even slightly. Most fights won't go exactly like a MrHappy video, so you have to know the fight not just know how to repeat what he did.

I feel like the ready-made solutions he provides ruins a lot of players, because they don't think on their feet and just blame something when it doesn't go according to script. No one farms without dealing with surprises.

[Neablis]

I remember my first WP run I did it not queing with friends for the first time and told them I was new. They weren't happy about it but they were accepting of it atleast. If they weren't there to tell me where to tank things and when to move and what to expect in real time I probably would be screwed.

Without experienced players in instances with noobs it would suck for the noobs. If you are so pressed for time that you have to get through the duty super fast....then maybe you shouldn't do the duty honestly. Or.....use duty finder or ask friends with the same goals to run with you. Duty Finder is random you take the risk of running with newbs. Dont' segregate this game any more than it already is.

For instance the other day I ran into a healer outside of hauke manor who was talking to a friend how they couldn't get through the story quest any farther because her duty finder groups keep bailing on her when she tells them she hasn't completed the duty yet. So what did I do? I put on my big boy pants and I called a friend to come dps for us and I tanked them through with no incident. I explained some of the things she needed to do and nothing bad at all happened. Sure it took an extra like 4-5 minutes for the run, but whats the big deal about a few extra minutes.

Sure no the harder content like primals extreme coil etc its a bit more difficult and you should expect some wipes during it, but that even goes with experienced groups who play together regularly crap happens. Completing a duty doesn't mean you are good at it, don't put this option in for gods sake.

[RONINRAVER]

Then you're really forcing the experienced players to stick around and be patient and teach the noobs. That's good if the experienced players want to help. But what if they don't want to help and have limited time and just want to get the duty done with asap? If you give an option to the exp players to either group with other exp players only or with anyone then any exp player who wants to help will not check that option and will be grouped with just anyone. For those who just want a party of exp players to play with, they can select that option. Give players options is all I'm asking.

You're creating a lot of problems/frictions between players when the exp players who do not want help are forced to group with noobs. The group will either vote kick the noob or the exp player leave and the whole group disband.

You. Already. Have. That. Option.

It is called Party Finder. It is NOT called Duty Finder.

You have a square hole. Stop trying to smash a round peg into it.


You're looking for a specific kind of player, not just any player will do. So you want to use the tool designed specifically from inception to execution to take any warm-blooded group of people, toss them together into something resembling a party, and throw them at content?


Instead of the tool designed to help you find that very specific group of people you're after?

Brilliant.



You want that specific group of skilled players around at all times, basically at your beck and call? Do as I said earlier. Make them. Build some players up into the kind of group mates you want, if they're really so rare on your server as to be nigh impossible to find.
You'll come to find that if you take an active role in increasing the number of players around you with an acceptable level of skill, that when you need a group of players with said acceptable levels of skill, they're easier to find.

Crazy, I know. But we live in strange times.


You want all the work done for you? Want SE to split the community into "acceptable" and "unacceptable" groupings for your easy selection?

Sucks to be you, not gonna happen. I say that considering the obvious and specific intent and approach SE has displayed with party formation tools so far.

Duty Finder is the egalitarian, come as you are, mash-em-together-and-see-what-happens grouping tool.
You want to set rules, require skill levels/gear checks beyond the minimum or only bring people who like the color blue more than red? Party Finder was made just for you.

[Edenholt]

Then you're really forcing the experienced players to stick around and be patient and teach the noobs.

Make your own groups and stop thinking you're better than others. You just sound like one of those that for anything start "omfg! I can't believe! you're kidding me! *ragequitbecausei'mtooimportantforit*".

[SIXTYONESIX]

Better idea:

How about people just stop being jerks and run with whoever you get. Teach people the correct way to do the fights so there are less noobs queuing for dungeons. And don't say that it is a waste of your precious time, or that that you just don't have time to teach someone. If you are playing a video game, you have time.

If you want a single player game, go play Skyrim or something.

[Ri_ri]

You guys know that this system wouldn't make you suddenly get a lot of carry parties, right?
If I buy all the EM primals, I could just queue and ruin it for 7 other people, for example. Now think about how common mercenaries are.