Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[LordSaviour]

These are the numbers I got from Square press-releases. Eh, I dunno if most MMOs start with a mil, but maybe. Regardless WoW is the same age as FFXI and has sustained 7-12M throughout its lifetime.

WoW had a crazy ad campaign which helped stimulate its subs.

SE's advertisement budget must be slim to none. Rarely see any commercials for any of its games.

[Obysuca]

WoW had a crazy ad campaign which helped stimulate its subs.

SE's advertisement budget must be slim to none. Rarely see any commercials for any of its games.

That's something that SE fails at :/ I saw 1 commercial, ONE, for XI way back in like 02-03, that was it. WoW just shoves ads down your throat every chance they get.

Well, at least outside Japan, apparently SE does tons of promotional things there for their games.


Also, for all you people saying XI never had more than 200k - 300k, just to prove you wrong, take this >.> As it was said before, 1 mil for a game just released is nothing, the real subs count for a bit later (year, sometimes less). For when this was posted, 2 mil for that far into the game is pretty good.

Regardless WoW is the same age as FFXI and has sustained 7-12M throughout its lifetime.

I just feel like pointing out, it's not the same age as XI lol XI is older. One of the reasons WoW has that many is because they throw ads at you whenever they get the chance and I'm sure they count those subs after an expansion when people come back. I remember reading a thing a few years back how WoW counts their RMT as players and each of the characters made as a "player" so I'm sure their subs are probably around ~5 mil, the rest being RMT, characters that are unactive or just people who come back for an expansion for a few months.

[LiadansWhisper]

Also, for all you people saying XI never had more than 200k - 300k, just to prove you wrong, take this >.>

Two million characters does not equal two million subs.

[Noahlimits]

Also, for all you people saying XI never had more than 200k - 300k, just to prove you wrong, take this >.>

Not that I care in the argument, but from what I remember that was active CHARACTERS which include alts. So it really isn't 2 million individual accounts.

[Obysuca]

Not that I care in the argument, but from what I remember that was active CHARACTERS which include alts. So it really isn't 2 million individual accounts.

It doesn't prove that there were only 200k-300k. Most people only had 1 mule, if any, seeing as how you can do all on 1 character, unlike a certain mmo that forces you to make 5+ characters just to play another job (and most likely counts all those as "players")

[LiadansWhisper]

It doesn't prove that there were only 200k-300k. Most people only had 1 mule, if any, seeing as how you can do all on 1 character, unlike a certain mmo that forces you to make 5+ characters just to play another job (and most likely counts all those as "players")

The only publicly released numbers were "500,000 users" in 2004. The "200k-300k" number came from SE saying it had that many daily active players, which is different from subscriptions. As of the end of September last year, FFXIV had one million unique subscribers.