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  1. #21
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    I always Stoneskin at the start of a dungeon and before every boss fight (with the exception of T2 after the first pull). Doesn't cost MP and saves me a cure or 8 (which DO cost MP).
    (12)

  2. #22
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    Tinker's Avatar
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    Character
    Tinker Gearsmith
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    BTW, just a pair of handy, simple macros for all you stoneskinners out there

    Light Party Stoneskin
    /ac "Stoneskin" <1>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <2>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <3>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <4>
    Full Party Stoneskin
    /ac "Stoneskin" <1>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <2>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <3>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <4>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <5>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <6>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <7>
    /wait 2.6
    /ac "Stoneskin" <8>
    Crazy Fighting Stoneskin
    /ac "Stoneskin" <mo>
    /ac "Stoneskin" <t>
    /ac "Stoneskin" <tt>
    Makes life easier
    (4)
    Last edited by Tinker; 01-03-2014 at 02:54 AM.

  3. #23
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    IveraIvalice's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ivera Ivalice
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    A healers job is to keep the party alive even when you have stupid people in your party. If a dd wants to pull hate at the start then a tank can get hate back with no damage taken kuz SS took it all, but if you heal him then you got hate. If something goes wrong in a fight you got SS to keep someone alive. If you make a wrong step and get bit by an aoe and the tank takes a big hit right then and your both almost dead, who do you heal?

    It can be a tough decision to make in a split second, SS would save you that trouble. SS is like insurance because you can't assume everything to be fine. I cast SS in DDs mid fight tank last but usually not at all because he's gonna keep losing it anyway but DDs shouldn't be getting hit anyway unless they are doing something wrong, and I time the last SS on the tank when a pull is done so he's buffed for the next pull.

    Using your abilities to their fullest is what good healers do and bad healers don't understand that and get mad. Any healer I've seen that uses SS often had been a good healer. Of course this is all for dungeon runs. On bosses with high aoe I dont SS the group after the first one, unless things like mountain buster are coming or other similar situations. Learn to use it efficiently yourself before you tell others not to use it
    (7)
    Last edited by IveraIvalice; 01-03-2014 at 03:18 AM.

  4. #24
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    Myrhn's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Myrhn Shirayuki
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I always cast stoneskin on everyone and THEN protect that way everyone stay close and I dont have a desperate DD or Tank rushing to fight. If you dont like to wait can always go as whm and do w/e you want.
    (17)
    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


  5. #25
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    Kako0404's Avatar
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    Character
    Kakoo Onionhead
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    SS is one of the most important spells in a WHM's arsenal. Precasting/curing someone makes much easier management when things get dicey. MP cost/efficiency only comes into play in certain situations. But the tradeoff you gain in time (not having to heal them ad hoc) and even MP (if a squishy guy dies and you end up blowing a swiftcast + 700mp on a rez) is immeasurable.

    Even during mid fight, I would spam it to all applicable units as long as I have time and if it doesn't drain my tank. For PLDs, it's extremely useful to spam SS on themselves.
    (5)

  6. #26
    Player
    Alindra's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Alindra Belle
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    I mostly (even on my SCH) stoneskin everyone cos I'm OCD and it annoys the crap out of me to see that one extra defensive buff on just the tank.

    Or cos I'm bored while waiting for the fight to start.

    And because it helps me know which DPS are the good little boys and girls who dodge and don't pull aggro. I get so happy when I'm halfway through a dungeon and everyone but the tank still has SS up :-)
    (11)

  7. #27
    Player Ed_N_Ants's Avatar
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    Character
    Saika Rose
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I find that stone skin helps me dps a lot longer then if I dont use it... But a scholar told me n ot to use stone skin so im totally done using it...
    (9)

  8. #28
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Character
    Evercy Warclan
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    Titan HM/Ex? No thanks. You're just wasting my time when it falls off on the first tumult.
    Wasting your time stone skinning pre-fight? guess what, it would be an even BIGGER waste of time if I steal hate with that one or two extra Medica(s) and cause people to panic
    (13)

  9. #29
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Character
    Ainslie Tinley
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Ah, sometimes soon people will tell us protect is a waste of time! Wouldn't surprise me though, since people don't seem patient enough to wait for that either...<.<
    (8)

  10. #30
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    Kal-El's Avatar
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    Character
    Kal El
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    most of the time its just wasted anyways.
    I really don't understand this statement. How can extra mitigation be wasted when in 9/10 fights AOE or adds hit a DPS or fellow healer?

    It can also prevent the squishes getting one shotted.

    I'd rather wait 20 seconds or so for everyone to get a Stoneskin than watch a healer waste mp/time on a heal or raise mid battle. If there isn't a WHM in the party I'll help out with the Stoneskins on my PLD. 10% mitigation is better than no mitigation.
    (7)

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