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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    Or you mean the only one that actively works towards trying to both expand out of cliques and improve the general community. Solo Dungeon finder and the comendation system work towards both ends. IT doesn't matter to Squeenix what dungeons get run, the only reason for a random setup is to help people who don't have 4 premades out. 90 myth tomes in an hour is no where near as efficient as a Garuda or WP farm.
    If they ever said this was a reason to do it this way, i -might- give them credit for trying something, but they haven't. The players are the ones trying to do the PR work for SQE because they can't imagine that SQE would ever do something wrong, or make a bad decision.

    Let met just say though, even if by the remote chance they're trying to foster a community; The fact that they pull 4-8 characters from entirely different realms with no cross-realm chat available after the dungeon (and a forum that is straight out of the bargain bin, posting limits and all) makes the DFR fail completely in it's community building attempt. No one will bother to try and make friends with party members if they know that they will -never- meet up with them again unless they leave their home server (and friends) to start anew on another server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post

    Let met just say though, even if by the remote chance they're trying to foster a community; The fact that they pull 4-8 characters from entirely different realms with no cross-realm chat available after the dungeon (and a forum that is straight out of the bargain bin, posting limits and all) makes the DFR fail completely in it's community building attempt. No one will bother to try and make friends with party members if they know that they will -never- meet up with them again unless they leave their home server (and friends) to start anew on another server.
    Why does someone need to make friends for there to be a community? it seems like comendations and cross server setup means people will be more polite to strangers, or even feel "forced' to help them. I'd much rather a community where everyone is nicer to people they don't know than "its easy to make friends"
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    Why does someone need to make friends for there to be a community? it seems like comendations and cross server setup means people will be more polite to strangers, or even feel "forced' to help them. I'd much rather a community where everyone is nicer to people they don't know than "its easy to make friends"
    The forced solo-queues aren't required in the least. I can see limiting premades to 50% of the dungeon type you're entering, but not forcing solo queues.

    Commendations are a nice touch, but nice people out there don't need to be coerced into being nice, they will be nice anyway because that's who they are; But the only thing stopping the people that are predisposed to being belligerent is the kick system (even if it is poorly designed) because they know they can be removed from the group and denied any rewards if they run their mouth too much.

    Then, of course, there is further proof that Square never intended the solo queue to be an intended feature because they're attempting to make groups possible in 2.2. You would not open up a feature to the thing that you say is against the intent of the system the very next patch, unless they expect that they will get no new players and people will stop creating new characters after 2.2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    the fact still stands. lower level instances and story dungeons especially have a disparity in terms of role division. lots of dd's very few tanks. high level players would never do any of the low level dungeons without roulette. its that simple, i dont understand why people cant wrap their heads around this. if u wanna grind tomes, form a premade and run wp. it takes u frickin 10 minutes!
    It's called wanting to do things with friends. I (and i'm sure many others) enjoy doing dungeons with a friend; Myself, me and my SO play the game together, and we enjoy doing the dungeons together... While it's not all about the tomes, the enticement of getting a few extra tomes and getting to spend some more time with my SO in the game is a big plus for me and would make me actually want to go to the dungeon with her, instead of saying "Nah, i'll run that some other time, let's go do our dailies or try the 8-mans again to get some more tomes."

    In all honesty, i believe that the DFR is simply a band-aid to a much larger mistake. SQE shouldn't have made the dungeons integral to the main story, they should have been an add-on; clear a solo duty and then open up the dungeon proper to solve another pressing matter in that dungeon, but not one tied to the progression of the main story. (Even though i hate forced solo content, it'd be better than the bottle-neck they forced themselves to work around).
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    If they ever said this was a reason to do it this way, i -might- give them credit for trying something, but they haven't. The players are the ones trying to do the PR work for SQE because they can't imagine that SQE would ever do something wrong, or make a....
    the fact still stands. lower level instances and story dungeons especially have a disparity in terms of role division. lots of dd's very few tanks. high level players would never do any of the low level dungeons without roulette. its that simple, i dont understand why people cant wrap their heads around this. if u wanna grind tomes, form a premade and run wp. it takes u frickin 10 minutes!
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