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  1. #31
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Well I'd like my DoL classes to become useful. I can't out farm / out price bots...
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  2. #32
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    Colman Meridius
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    1. Affordable personal housing. If most people have a house, this will create a furniture market. FC housing doesn't do this because a group of many will have their own crafters of every class. Heck, even if you opened 1 ward per area that is already in existance to personal housing, that is 150 new customers for crafters to sell to. You say you want the uber-rich to unload some gold. You know those people will be lined up to be the first to have a personal house if there are only a few available. Slowly introducing personal housing in small increments would also create a real estate market if people can sell land.

    2. Stop giving out materia. Quick. The free IV level materia just demolished that market. This was a terrible idea.
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  3. #33
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    Colman Meridius
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    3. Rare item drops from NM-types and dungeons. Dungeon loot right now is everywhere, anyone that runs endgame dungeons can get i60 gear for any job right out of their retainer. We need rare items that people want, badly. Rare items that could increase your inventory space, rare crafting needs, rare equipment, anything that gives a player a boost that most others don't have. Make a small percentage of the i60 drops in dungeons be special and have materia slots. There needs to be stuff out there that a player really wants and can buy. Give rare item drops to dungeons bosses or even primals that can be used to make useful furniture. Like a chest that can hold a ton of items. Stuff like that
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  4. #34
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    4. Raise the price of the philo tome crafting materials. Everyone can easily get philo tomes now. Start raising to cost of those items, if they cost 250 instead of 125 the supply of them would be cut in half and the market wouldn't be flooded with them.

    5. Find a way to stop gathering bots. The insane amount of supply for these items has killed the price of everything. Supply is murdering demand right now. It would be a lot harder for crafters to level everything to 50 if shards weren't dirt cheap, as well as materials.

    Just some ideas, I'm sure I will think of more later
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  5. #35
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    Abraxos Foras
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    Archer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    I seriously think there is a small amount of people willing to pay $15 for 1k Gil. That is not what is hurting out economy.
    When Titan wins were a big thing, people were paying 400-800k for a win. I highly doubt that was all honest gil.

    Edit: Also, the amount of crafters at the start of the server who had their gil taken away. Kind of hard to believe, so many people maxed all crafts so early without some gil to buy mats to power through leve quest. Those people were selling items for 3-4x more then they cost now. I don't see how people could have afforded those items with the game only being up for less then a month.
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    Last edited by Rightchaus; 01-01-2014 at 07:29 AM.

  6. #36
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Find a way to stop gathering bots. The insane amount of supply for these items has killed the price of everything. Supply is murdering demand right now. It would be a lot harder for crafters to level everything to 50 if shards weren't dirt cheap, as well as materials.
    This is what RMT does. The corner the market by selling stuff dirt cheap until nobody collects it anymore, then they jack the price so high that players have no choice but to buy gil. It happened in FFXI and it's happening here unless STF gets it together and really cracks down.
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  7. #37
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    Morgan Hirostar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    When Titan wins were a big thing, people were paying 400-800k for a win. I highly doubt that was all honest gil.
    That was honest gil, because it would cost over $100 to purchase that amount of gil for one weapon. You also have to remember that at the beginning of the game, money was flowing freely because everyone was leveling crafting classes.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    That was honest gil, because it would cost over $100 to purchase that amount of gil for one weapon. You also have to remember that at the beginning of the game, money was flowing freely because everyone was leveling crafting classes.
    You've never played a F2P, the amount of money people drop for virtual items. There are even threads on the forum of people asking SE to start selling gil.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    This is what RMT does. The corner the market by selling stuff dirt cheap until nobody collects it anymore, then they jack the price so high that players have no choice but to buy gil. It happened in FFXI and it's happening here unless STF gets it together and really cracks down.
    RMT are not the ones that pushed mats into the system. There are many many FC's that were stock piling raw materials because they thought that the housing system was going to be intelligent and require a FC to work together and actually build it. Now, it is just pay this much for this and so all these raw materials have been thrown into the system. That, and noone is crafting anything because once you get crafting to 50, there are no rewards for you to continue crafting items of all levels. Now you are left with gatherers flooding the markets with raw materials that noone is going to buy. THAT is driving down the cost of everything.
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  10. #40
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    Morgan Hirostar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    You've never played a F2P, the amount of money people drop for virtual items. There are even threads on the forum of people asking SE to start selling gil.
    Yes...maybe some people did....but in order to effect an economy of a server of thousands....a HUGE percentage would have to ALL be doing it. That is not happening here.
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