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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Pretty sure Square will make a High Summoner because right now the current Summoner is a low level Summoner and besides in past Final Fantasy titles we started off as a low level Summoner called an Evoker or Caller than once we gained enough experience we become a full fledged Summoner. Even our initial lvl 50 gear is Evoker gear while the ilvl 90 gear is the Summoner gear so we have to become more powerful to summon something greater than the Egi Elementals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Even-though Square calls us Summoners we are low level summoners comparable to evokes and callers from previous Final Fantasy titles. Final Fantasy XV even calls there low level summoner a Summoners and the mastered class a High Summoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Even-though Square calls us Summoners we are low level summoners comparable to evokes and callers from previous Final Fantasy titles. Final Fantasy XV even calls there low level summoner a Summoners and the mastered class a High Summoner
    "Even though the company who makes the game calls us Summoners, we aren't Summoners."

    You can't compare FFXIV to past FF games. It's stand-alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    "Even though the company who makes the game calls us Summoners, we aren't Summoners."

    You can't compare FFXIV to past FF games. It's stand-alone.
    You can compare FFXIV to past FF games because the stories in FF titles are stand alone not the classes the classes are core mechanic of Final Fantasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You can compare FFXIV to past FF games because the stories in FF titles are stand alone not the classes the classes are core mechanic of Final Fantasy
    And how does FFXIV not follow a "core mechanic?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You can compare FFXIV to past FF games because the stories in FF titles are stand alone not the classes the classes are core mechanic of Final Fantasy
    The classes are the core mechanic of FF14. In previous titles we saw the Job system as the core mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You can compare FFXIV to past FF games because the stories in FF titles are stand alone not the classes the classes are core mechanic of Final Fantasy
    Thats silly, by your thinking the white mage class would lose half of its spells, since Stone Water and Aero are all trademark black mage spells, Black mages wouldn't get Quick Cast as its a Red Mage trademark ability, And scholars shouldn't be a primary healing pet class.
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    Last edited by Telsyr; 01-01-2014 at 08:58 PM.

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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonFarron View Post
    Arcanist=Evoker
    Summoner=Summoner
    Bingo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You can compare FFXIV to past FF games because the stories in FF titles are stand alone not the classes the classes are core mechanic of Final Fantasy
    Please list the games of the main franchise that go through this progression.
    Only one I can think of is FF3. I wouldn't count FFX since you only got the title for Yuna after the end of the game. She was summoning just fine all before.

    Anyway, list those against the games that had Summoners.
    Then list it against all of the main Franchise.

    Summoners that go through that progression are not the majority by any standard. If other games didn't follow, why does FFXIV need to?
    Summoners as its own job stop being a thing after FFIV anyway.
    Final Fantasy makes stand alone games so there's room to reinvent design while also evolving the current.

    A balance between tradition and innovation is what Final Fantasy is about, imo. SE can turn the Summoner closer to a High Summoner in an expansion or something.

    It also doesn't need to be held to that either considering the very little history of Summoner evolution may be less interesting design options than just improving pet synergy and gameplay mechanics.
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