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    Well when I saw the "ascian" ending after the main story I assumed all the new ascians were Gaius and his Legati. They pretty much match up well (3 guys 1 female.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    Well when I saw the "ascian" ending after the main story I assumed all the new ascians were Gaius and his Legati. They pretty much match up well (4 guys 1 female.)
    There's a whole legion of ascians at the end of the cutscene: http://youtu.be/Lva5s0F3wAk?t=16m38s

    Or do you mean something else?

    Also, Gaius' intentions can be put in this quaint manner: I'm here to civilize, my dear. ;-)
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    Last edited by Toranja; 12-19-2013 at 03:16 AM.
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    They named 4 new ascians. They happen to coincide withe Legati.

    Pashatrot Male with light hair combed to the side -> Arvina
    Igeyorhm Female -> Livia
    Nabriales Male with short spikey white hair -> Nero (also seen new new trailer CS)

    Lahabrea's new body is most likely Gaius himself.

    Spoiler of 2.1 after this.


    They also added a white robed ascian in the new main quest named Elidibus. You know the guy in Final Fantasy Tactics that could summon Zodiark?
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    SPOILER!





    Ascian theory is good BUT

    Nero not make sense because he is dead yet, he escaped.

    and he have his own ambitious and someone he want to prove he is better (Garlond-kun) its show that he still have his own will (its not Ascian's nature to just target someone like Garlond, they have bigger goal than that)

    While others such Livia, Arvina and Gaius are assumed dead or unconscious so that Lahabrea and others can take control of their bodies to their own use.

    Still can't prove who is 3rd male (not Nero) they probably not Legatus, they may be.

    btw I have better idea 3rd male is not Nero, He is White Raven we beaten him in 1.0 but perhaps not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    SPOILER!

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    btw I have better idea 3rd male is not Nero, He is White Raven we beaten him in 1.0 but perhaps not.
    I doubt Nael is an Ascian, as his Aether was absorbed by Bahamut after the battle at Rivenroad.
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    After seeing the post Crystal Tower cutscenes I redact some of the theory I had for the Ascians, also while watching someone's youtube vid of the final scenes where the Ascians are all shown I noticed they had different haircuts that what the ones in mine did.

    Is it randomized maybe? A glitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cont13 View Post
    Throughout the main storyline I wondered what Gaius's endgame was and his obsession with conquering Eorzea, something commented on by several characters throughout the game. Three attempts across fifteen years from several different angles, ultimately going it alone on the last attempt. What is it about this one region that demands his brand of leadership?
    The region is fragmented and divided by factionalism. Beastmen are summoning primals practically at will. Having a single unified direction for the continent would make Eorzea a lot stronger. And the only way for that unification to occur in the near future is for Gaius to conquer it all.

    Further, the Emperor is probably approaching death. There's going to be a scramble for the throne when the Emperor dies. There always is in these sorts of situations. Having a secure powerbase would help to ensure that no matter who ends up on the throne, Gaius manages to ride it out.
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    The trouble is, no matter how lofty or noble his ideals or goals were at first, Gaius lost all credibility the moment he allied with Lahabrea - he zealously hated the Primals and wanted to conquer Eorzea to destroy the Primals. So, what did he then go and do? Team up with the very force responsible for giving the beast tribes the ability to summon the Primals in the first place.

    Personally I felt this actually cheapened his character, in that his drive and goals were no longer his own, but simply the machinations of the Ascians. Which is a shame, as I actually liked him as a character, even though I hated him as well (as a result of role-playing my character and her back story involving Ala Mhigo).
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    Gaius had Alot of reasons for doing what he's did. While hating primals and deities is a major factor it always seemed like his endgame was not just taking but earning the throne. He was the leader behind the failed attempt at erozea and on sure that failure not only hurt his pride but damaged his reputation dispite how well he took ala mhingo. The emperor is a conqueror building garlemald as we know it just in his lifetime. Gaius conquering erozea would not only bring new power and resources to the empire but also inspire confidence along his peers when he makes his play for the throne when the emperor expires. Everything else just seemed like a means to an end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    The trouble is, no matter how lofty or noble his ideals or goals were at first, Gaius lost all credibility the moment he allied with Lahabrea - he zealously hated the Primals and wanted to conquer Eorzea to destroy the Primals. So, what did he then go and do? Team up with the very force responsible for giving the beast tribes the ability to summon the Primals in the first place.
    Gaius appears to have been ignorant of that little detail - and I don't exactly blame him for that (after all, the Ascians provided him with the solution to the primal problem as well).

    But overall, I'm rather disappointed in the way that the Imperial foursome have been handled to date.
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