Thanks, that was comprehensive! I actually read the entire thing.. I just recently finished ifrit xm with my healer and man, it was very intense on the tanks. Someday maybe I'll get there and try it out as a tank.. I feel that healers have it good cause they don't die often. I'm now thinking of good builds for war, but probably I'd lean more no defensive as I'm going the 30 vit path. Tanks be tanking! Although, having a main stat as a secondary is good fun. I think I want to weigh vit and str equally when gearing up with slightly more leaning towards vit but getting as much str as possible.