Is Paying for a Dungeon a ToS Violation?

[Doo]

@jomoru
I'm jealous ..no seriously.

I couldn't help it. It was effecting me irl man. The asking price just happened to be exactly what I was willing to pay in the first place. If it was higher, I would've passed and went back to leveling alts or something. Albeit, I would've much rather gotten the win for free....stupid big fat ugly rockface meanie

I understand. Finding 8 capable players to do titan is just terrible.

1) DPS Heart phase check - one dd dies or falls off - lost
2) Healer doesn't know phase 5 - lost
3) tank - easy role but if they eat bombs at the wrong time - lost

Like I said in another thread I hate how these end game fights rely so much on everyone playing their roles perfectly to win. The more skilled player should have more of an impact to overcome the lesser skilled players mistakes.

[DeadRiser]

Dude, I felt your pain for a while. My Free Company was on Titan for a couple days with a core group and it took us a while.

I was close to wanting to pay, not for a carry but to complete. I'm glad I didn't. My Free Company pulled through and it went really well. Just takes perseverance and dedication :P Good luck though

[Mayin]

Lol xD.

Whelp, just got my relic. It feels gooooooood. I can't seem to find the cookies they promised though :/

@alhandra

You seem to be placing the entire responsibility of an entire group on the shoulders of an individual. That's not very fair. I've been in Titan HM df for daaaays. I've explained the bomb rotation, explained leaving the second gaol alone, building up lb2 when dps is low, I pop my cds for mountain buster...the whole nine yards man. I'm (well was lol) i70, and farmed the appropriate gear before even going in there.

I don't know what else you'd have me do?

This is sad. If you have to pay to advance now, you'll be a burden on any seriously attempting raid in the future. Good luck trying to beat any extreme primals if you can't even beat HM. Breaks my heart when players cheapen themselves this way.

[Kyata]

I understand why some would want to pay for one after so many failed attempts, but honestly, I would never do it myself.
Not because it's wrong ethically or professionally(lol), but because I'd be losing the one main thing this game lacks, accomplishment.
I'd rather trek on through a hundred attempts and clear it legitimately, than have someone else do the work for me.

I won't say much more on the subject of buying a clear, but I can give you some advice on the fight. Take it from someone who was in your shoes for quite a while a couple of months ago.

Seeing as you're a WAR, this one task is best suited for you to do, as you don't have much else to do besides time your defensive moves for Mountain Buster.
Make a macro with the following lines:
/p ########### PLUMES NEXT <se.1> ###############
/wait 0.5
/p ########### PLUMES NEXT <se.1> ###############
/wait 0.5
/p ########### PLUMES NEXT <se.1> ###############

WotL is the #1 cause of death for Titan HM, usually.
Memorize when it happens and hit this macro 3-4sec BEFORE it does.

A good, quick tip on memorizing the pattern would be to watch for Landslide.
-Phase 1:
No WotL

-Phase 2 (After first jump):
WotL right at start.
Landslide > Tumult (hit macro here) > WotL

-Phase 3 (After second jump):
Landslide (hit macro here) > WotL, simple.

-Phase 4 (heart)
Like phase 3, Landslide (hit macro here) > WotL.

-Phase 5 (last phase after heart)
He alternates in two patterns.
Landslide (hit macro here) > Mountain Buster > WotL
Landslide > Mountain Buster > Tumult (hit macro here) > WotL

Sorry for the long write-up, but this certainly helped me get through Titan HM easily, everyone will appreciate your reminders before WotL.

Another suggestion before I finish this, don't be afraid to build a group centered around 3 healers. One or two of the healers can DPS during heart phase and you'll clear it fine enough. 3 healers > 2 for newer groups.

[Phai]

This is sad. If you have to pay to advance now, you'll be a burden on any seriously attempting raid in the future. Good luck trying to beat any extreme primals if you can't even beat HM. Breaks my heart when players cheapen themselves this way.

I agree buying Titan HM isent what i would do. But read all posts in this thread and u would see there are cases where this is the final and maybe only resort to get further.

If u know how ppl, and game can be for some, u know everything about ur post in some cases are wrong.

PS: not ment in a rude way at all tho.

[SoulKhan]

What to say what to say, For my DRG I got it done the 2nd DF run I did and I didn't know much of the fight at that time but I picked it up very fast and I was lucky enough to find that random df group, I died once on that run.
Now I will talk about way afterwards with my WAR, I honestly fought titan hard over 265 times due to df and bad pugs through party finder. At that point I knew the entire fight like the back of my hand and was in total confusion to why people were not understanding to (move) I am very quick to pick up patterns and skill rotation on my classes I play. People told me to buy the clear for my war so I could get the relic but 265 runs, I did not give in and kept going I found some good people on my server and they had a group going in and It was nice to feel like we were all on the same page with dodging ect. basically we moved like it was a dance and that was pretty fun imo.

P.S I would not dog on someone that bought a clear because they knew the fight but couldn't get a proper group that was on his or her skill level so it all depends, If someone doesn't know the run or doesn't know how to clear it themselves or try then they are pretty sad but it could be different for each person I think.

[avecha]

Not learning is only hindering your chances at later content. It also spoils content for other people as there isn't enough competent players to run stuff with.

I done Titan HM once, attempted Titan EX through DF and got raged at. I didn't know the fight then, i don't know the fight now.

I love Garuda EX though.

[ProxyTooMuch]

I don't understand what all the elitism is for. The guy's playing a tank.

Here's a flow chart for Titan HM as a tank:

phase 1: stand there, 1-2-3 1-2-3
phase 2: stand there, 1-2-3 1-2-3
phase 3: stand there between bombs, 1-2-3 1-2-3
heart phase: stand there, 1-2-3 1-2-3
afterheart: use a cooldown after every landslide... and stand there, 1-2-3 1-2-3

Wow, he must've learned so much after completing it.

[kuikui]

No need for such ignorance here, it's hard to keep reading. The OP did not pay to be carried. He paid for competent people, like himself, to assist him in completing. He did the fight numerous times, was geared for it, and knew his role. All of this, wich he stated.

The difference between paying for a carry, and paying for assistance is worlds apart.

[Phai]

No need for such ignorance here, it's hard to keep reading. The OP did not pay to be carried. He paid for competent people, like himself, to assist him in completing. He did the fight numerous times, was geared for it, and knew his role. All of this, wich he stated.

The difference between paying for a carry, and paying for assistance is worlds apart.

Think u kinda nailed it there