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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetheart View Post
    Even if will be, I'm sure it will be very different. FFXIV might be actually one of the last mmo's which contains classic and old school elements of that genre. Most new mmo's are already action based so in few years I'm sure we wont see any more of that kind. Even look on new FF series, its going to new direction as well. FFXIV looks and play as it is now, cos simply development was started long time ago. I'm personally cool and glad about that.

    I'm also pretty sure that races will be different. FFXIV and FFXI while different in many aspects have also close connection and a lot of in common. I don't think so that next FF mmo would go that road again, I mean it would be very very risky. Aaaanywwaayyy I wish they won't do any another FF mmo any time soon, I rather them to focus on 2 we have and improve them all the time, give cool expansions etc. If they must then, better action, and really different than last 2.
    We can't tell for sure. Most of the new age MMOs..how shall we say...run into the big problem of lots of hype, follow by subscribers fleeing away due to shallow content.

    Leave action oriented MMOs to those that follow content based business models like GW,GW2 that DLC it. People who use subscription based or FtP based fail badly when it comes to longterm.

    Of course it doesn't help if you make a crap game in any genre.
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    I'm sure theres going to be another one, though next they should wring out FFVII some more and make that into an online MMO. FFVII name will trick more people to play, thus more profit.
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    And what happens when FF7 is a flop because the 3d project takes SE's struggling developers and piledrives them into the ground, forcing them to release a half-finished game by the end of a fiscal year, figuring they can just finish it with downloadable patches in the future while players enjoyed the starting Midgar section? By the way, Aeris isn't done yet. Well, aeris and Vincent, really. I mean vincent's house is done, but you can't play him yet.

    Ya know, like this game turned out.

    If SE can't get some legit cash, instead of recycled flashpan cash...this MMO is it for them. Unless that next MMO is a straight shameless 350-crysta-hat-get, they won't have the money, and if it is...well Yoichi Wada did always say he wants to model Facebook-quality games.

    God save the genre, god save Square.

    That next MMO may be on the iphone and droid. Well one first, because they'll have difficulty porting it to the other likely. Don't say I didn't warn you!
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    Personally I want to see SE do a proper "Open World Single Player RPG" in the vein of Fallout, Oblivion, and others with a Final Fantasy touch to it, even if its not a numbered one. Hell they could call it something like

    "Final Fantasy: Lost" or something and have the whole "Theme" Being getting lost in a huge single player world.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    And what happens when FF7 is a flop because the 3d project takes SE's struggling developers and piledrives them into the ground, forcing them to release a half-finished game by the end of a fiscal year, figuring they can just finish it with downloadable patches in the future while players enjoyed the starting Midgar section? By the way, Aeris isn't done yet. Well, aeris and Vincent, really. I mean vincent's house is done, but you can't play him yet.

    Ya know, like this game turned out.

    If SE can't get some legit cash, instead of recycled flashpan cash...this MMO is it for them. Unless that next MMO is a straight shameless 350-crysta-hat-get, they won't have the money, and if it is...well Yoichi Wada did always say he wants to model Facebook-quality games.

    God save the genre, god save Square.

    That next MMO may be on the iphone and droid. Well one first, because they'll have difficulty porting it to the other likely. Don't say I didn't warn you!
    It doesn't have to be good, just needs to sell at release, like selling tickets but the show gets cancelled and there are no refunds!..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    And what happens when FF7 is a flop because the 3d project takes SE's struggling developers and piledrives them into the ground, forcing them to release a half-finished game by the end of a fiscal year, figuring they can just finish it with downloadable patches in the future while players enjoyed the starting Midgar section? By the way, Aeris isn't done yet. Well, aeris and Vincent, really. I mean vincent's house is done, but you can't play him yet.

    Ya know, like this game turned out.

    If SE can't get some legit cash, instead of recycled flashpan cash...this MMO is it for them. Unless that next MMO is a straight shameless 350-crysta-hat-get, they won't have the money, and if it is...well Yoichi Wada did always say he wants to model Facebook-quality games.

    God save the genre, god save Square.

    That next MMO may be on the iphone and droid. Well one first, because they'll have difficulty porting it to the other likely. Don't say I didn't warn you!
    Well unless you have managers that can't crunch numbers, producers that can't keep people in line, and directors that doesn't know the first thing about costs projections and department heads that can't keep schedules...

    That's not going to happen.

    I know people want to famously believe all FF14 needed was split and polish, but reality is, they had a big enough budget with more then enough time for any MMO much less big budget MMO. It failed on its own merits.

    There are idiots that can drive anything into the ground. That's why we usually don't hire idiots, or fire them quickly.

    Things get done in the world because we have competent people that know what is and is not possible in decent timeframe, while trying to be as creative as possible.

    Then we have FF14.
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    it failed because it was released half finished and is continuing to fail more each day with more people leaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    it failed because it was released half finished and is continuing to fail more each day with more people leaving.
    You can say that with anything. Oh I don't have my homework because it was half finish. Oh I fail my test because I was half finished with studying. Oh I failed to live on because I half finished my crosswalk and a car came.

    FF14 has more then enough time. Not being able to finish is more a sign of incompetence then "half finish". You don't "half finish" something with multi year deadline.

    It's understandable if the deadline was moved on short noticed, but that's impossible given that SE announced it...what? a yr and a half in advance. A beta test of of 9months?

    Heck I knew about FF14 before the E3 announcement because it was a pretty easy insider topic. That's how freakin long we knew in advance of the deadlines FF14 was on.
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    I honestly dont even think the FF series will last much longer, 12 was so mixed, 13 was so mixed, 14 was total disaster, people mixed about 13-2, 13vs is hyped to shit so it has to work out, then they have 15 which needs to do well or I see Se being in the business of remakes, remakes and more remakes. Maybe we'll get an 11 remake.
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    waaay too early to think about this i think.
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