[Request] Please up the ilvl requirement for Pharos Sirius

[Amyas]

Wasn't this supposed to help prevent the fact that people were holding back others in more established raids are primal fights, because DF was unbiased on who it chose?

It was implemented because of the very rare occasion people would join groups in crafting gear or with all level 1 accessories, or no gear at all. Not to give people who were overgeared for an instance a big fat



I still can't get over the fact you're arguing for an dungeon that drops ilvl 60 gear to have its ilvl requirement upped to 60 or more. Crazy.

[CHunterX]

People talk about fresh 50s without AF gear. How is this possible? The lvl45 and lvl50 class quests get you that gear for free.

I don't think you understand how many people hop straight off the FATE train into dungeons wearing whatever garbage they had left over from a previous class. For example, I've had many a tank wearing their old Lancer armor (why GLD/MRD can equip LNC gear is still beyond my comprehension).

[Darksword]

I did a Haukke DF run a couple nights ago with the nicest PLD. He was in full AF, with the DL sword and HQ AH jewelry. A fresh 50, but he had skills. He and another guy had never been there before, so I walked them through the bosses and pulls. We wiped a couple times on each boss, but always managed to win. The PLD took quite a bit of damage but nothing unmanageable for my SCH, and he held hate very well.

We timed out on Hellicarnassus getting the DD positioning on the twin adds down. The last go was perfect though. The timer ran out right as we knocked Amandine down to about 15% and I was pre-casting Succor as she was being eaten. We had the win in the bag.

I think the average level for the dungeons is just fine, provided that its reached by normal armor and a higher level weapon. Really theyre all just DPS checks. A DRG in full AF with Ifrit or Garuda's spear would do just fine in Pharos and still be right by the level requirement. Same for Haukke and Copperbell. I'll bet a full team in all AF with Ifrit's weapons, food, and medicine could clear all three with a just bit of difficulty.

[rabbitzero]

I don't think you understand how many people hop straight off the FATE train into dungeons wearing whatever garbage they had left over from a previous class.

Isn't this a thing of the past, or will be soon, though? With fate parties gone from what i've seen, more people running dungeons to level, and how insanely easy it is to get philo gear (at least cheaper parts), not counting bad gear rolling, it seems the days of people trying level 50 with level 30 or so gear should be dropping off (not counting that it's now locked to item level).

I'm also guessing there could be people who skip a lot of quests to either save for alt classes, or don't know about the AF quests, not getting them.

[Worm]

See this is what I'd like people to think about. If all were gonna argue about is that it's doable with no problem regardless of gear, then what the heck was the point of having an ilvl requirement for duty finder in the first place?

So the ilvl requirement itself intrinsically proves that we need a higher requirement because if people in ilvl 48 gear were really meant to be doing it there'd be ... no requirement on ilvl at all? What? Maybe SE didn't want to have the high level queue favor old dungeons so they didn't make the ilvl requirements different, I dunno.

I think most people can agree with knocking it up a notch so people at least quest for their job gear, maybe grab their GC weapon. Your problem is that you started out saying it should be 60 or 65 which was CRAZY, and then you down graded to 55 to 58 which is still pretty crazy. It's just hard to take you seriously with these limits you want to see on PS.

[BlueMage]

The place drops i60 gear. It would be weird if the iLv requirement was 60 or above.

[BlueMage]

what the heck was the point of having an ilvl requirement for duty finder in the first place?

The problem was there were a LOT of players in DF who were going into dungeons like AK with sub Lv30 gear/weapons, because you dont need gear to leech credit in FATE parties. Its one thing if someone's in AF with i48+ gear, but something had to be done about people going in with less.

[Ri_ri]

The problem was there were a LOT of players in DF who were going into dungeons like AK with sub Lv30 gear/weapons, because you dont need gear to leech credit in FATE parties. Its one thing if someone's in AF with i48+ gear, but something had to be done about people going in with less.

I've never seen it. Never, ever, in the 300+ dungeon runs I've had.

[ispano]

I've never seen it. Never, ever, in the 300+ dungeon runs I've had.

It's not as common in recent weeks, even before 2.1. It was a much bigger issue earlier on, especially with Titan.

[Amyas]

I've never seen it. Never, ever, in the 300+ dungeon runs I've had.

In my 300+ runs I've only seen it once, in pre-nerf AK. Blm with lvl 20-30 accessories, everything else was AF/dl wep. Slowed the run down a tiny bit, but nothing to get too upset over. (did irk me a bit before wall, but we cleared it fine so I cared less after lol)

Then again, maybe it was much more prevalent and I just never really saw it because I never /examined people unless they had something cool on lol.