Just Another 3rd party bot BUT 1000 TIMES WORSE

[Rentahamster]

Why not, could be fun to RP some Salem action. All hilarious baseless witch hunts and subsequent unfounded condemnations and drownings aside, Hamster I don't know if you remember (because my memory is foggy in my old age) but was it not SE's old practice to do nothing for months and then take a "spring cleaning" approach to banning many accounts at once? Not really baiting you for an argument and it's kind of an incidental point to this thread but I'm just curious if you remember from the old days. I happen to remember, maybe incorrectly, that that was the way they did it. I think all these things getting reported will come out in the wash all at once at some point en masse. Just my thought though, maybe wrong.

Yeah, I know how they roll with stuff like the mass Salvage ban, but it also happens on an intermittent basis as well, just google for LM-17 and you'll find lots of feedback from players who weren't banned in any kind of mass purge. Whether it's negligent payment, botting, RMT, or whatever, it happens both en masse and on an individual basis as well. It also happens fairly, with lots of evidence to back it up, or unfairly (like that stupid one that banned ppl who were gardening on their alts)

But anyway, I'm kinda wondering if that's what you thought the main point of my previous post was, because I wasn't really talking about that.

I was talking about how there is a great deal of misunderstanding in this thread, and that each "side", so to speak, thinks the other side is arguing for an extreme version of what they're actually arguing for.

No one's arguing for extreme measures on either side (total bot freedom vs. draconian crackdown), but a lot of people in this thread seem to think that the other person is - which is the source for a lot of the unneeded aggression and hostility.

[Peregrine]

There's no misunderstanding, Hamster.
There is only gullibility and lying.
The gullible, because they believed their friends when they said they got banned for no reason.
The lying, because the odds we actually have a cheater in this thread approaches 100%.

They are a threat to society like anti-vaxers are threats. Their irrational fear of the only thing there to protect them shows their ignorance and a true predisposition to bite what is trying to help them and hurt themselves.

Or in the case of cheaters, to help themselves while pretending to protect the innocent.

Their fears are the only imaginary witches in this discussion. The cheaters are real.

[AngryNixon]

Yeah, I know how they roll with stuff like the mass Salvage ban, but it also happens on an intermittent basis as well, just google for LM-17 and you'll find lots of feedback from players who weren't banned in any kind of mass purge. Whether it's negligent payment, botting, RMT, or whatever, it happens both en masse and on an individual basis as well. It also happens fairly, with lots of evidence to back it up, or unfairly (like that stupid one that banned ppl who were gardening on their alts)

But anyway, I'm kinda wondering if that's what you thought the main point of my previous post was, because I wasn't really talking about that.

I was talking about how there is a great deal of misunderstanding in this thread, and that each "side", so to speak, thinks the other side is arguing for an extreme version of what they're actually arguing for.

No one's arguing for extreme measures on either side (total bot freedom vs. draconian crackdown), but a lot of people in this thread seem to think that the other person is - which is the source for a lot of the unneeded aggression and hostility.

Several pages later. No Hamster I didn't think that at all I know what you were saying , I was just curious on a side point that I think, it may be possible that they're just building lists for a later date to mass ban, hence the perceived nothing.

There is a large difference between perceived nothing and actual nothing, although when you're looking in from the outside they're identical.

I think on top of the miscommunication or misunderstanding issue you've raised that the perception of inaction isn't helping them at this time and fueling the fire.