Who here actually likes seeing there Win to Lose ratio in pvp?

[Alhanelem]

This is an absolutely degenerative form of 'pvp' combat that I really don't want to participate in, and I used to play on a pvp server in WoW, and hung out in nullsec in EVE online.

It's bad pvp. It's lazy game design. Like housing, it's just a 'checkbox' that someone in a suit told them they needed to 'fill out' to 'appeal' to 'customers', not understanding that customers want fun gameplay, not just "pvp arena: CHECK'

I respectfully compeltely disagree. Its clear to me a lot of thought and effort went into. That's not to say the balance is perfect, of course. but it's a damn sight better than what you're implying it is. I find it fun, personally. Is it for everyone? hell no. But it does have a certain appeal. It's also just the first PvP thing, it's not something they just threw in and are going to forget next week.

I personally don't like it, I started PvP today for the 1st time.
4 losses 1 win.
3 of the 4 losses where out inside 1m because I was up against the what may aswell been the Harlem Globetrotters

3 of the teams where rank 15+
near capped all moral gear.

1 loss was close and the battle lasted like 3 mins.

1 win. where both groups had no moral gear and all below rank 3.

You can avoid this problem by playing the level 30/40 cap battles. Since you are level synced it is much more friendly to those just getting started. Once you've earned some marks and gotten started on pvp gear you can move up to the big leagues, so to speak. The level 30/40 battles give a bit less Marks and PvP EXP, but in exchange, you also get normal EXP if you're on a non-level 50 job.

[WiseWolfHolo]

I am a huge PvP fan, but why can we not have free world PvP or at least a map designed to nothing but mindlessly wasting each other. I do not like a "gladiator style arena" simply because of limitations. I want to feel as if I am playing and honestly the best PvP MMORPGS are free to play from my experience, but I want to feel as if a class actually fills its role, such as bards and mages on hilltops raining down death those below, while at the same time having groups sneaking up behind them as 2 shotting them.

To answer your question, I would prefer if it just said victories on it. Although allowing to see how many matches total you played to victories is a form of win/loss it is a bother to me as well because as you said you have no real control over the team you get dealt. Perhaps it should just show how many matches you played and nothing else.

[Lexxuk]

PVP is a competitive format, you're competing against someone else for victory so of course it has to show you just how competitive you were! If your win ratio was over 90% you'd be pretty annoyed if that was removed.

If you want to slowly rank up, skip the level 50 matches, 30/40 has no possibility of players having morale+ gear (it resets it to 0) so people running around those matches with PVP gear are more than likely not running an optimal set up, gear wise.

My win/loss ratio does suck, but I don't want to get rid of it because eventually I want my win/loss ration to not suck, it's something to work towards.

[Vandark]

I would prefer if it just said victories on it. Although allowing to see how many matches total you played to victories is a form of win/loss it is a bother to me as well because as you said you have no real control over the team you get dealt.

Yeah it would be nicer just to see how many matches I have won and not have it show it in a win/lose ratio, if it's just for me to see and no one else why not just make it show how many victory's you've had and nothing else.

If it's just to keep track of personally, add a reset button.

Or maybe even create an NPC that you can pay off or bribe to clear your PvP profile?
A feature that alows you to reset the score, I'd be down for that, like 5k gil or something to reset your PvP score.
Or a reset button on the menu, thats cool too. ^^b

If you're a perfectionist why don't you just become more perfect so you win all the time?

Also, it DOESNT show your losses, only your wins and total games. you have to math it out to get your losses.

No one wins all the time and this style of PvP is extreamly team orientated so one persons performance isn't enough to ensure a victory.

It may not show loses but it shows your total wins out of how many games you have played this to me is the same as showing your loses, it would be much better if it did not display the amount of games played and only displayed how many games you have won.

I'm sorry but you sound really arrogant if seeing your PvP statistics bother you that much.

It's nothing of the sought, It just comes down to personal preference and these kinds of features in games I've always believed belong more to Shoot em up games like Call of Duty.
In a game like this I don't even want to know about it or feel like the games keeping tally on my performance, especially when there is so much that goes into determining the wining team other than a players skill level.

When it comes to the MMORPG world I just want to enter and play without having the added stress of weather or not I'll have another win or loss on my profile.

[StarMarmot]

Also, it DOESNT show your losses, only your wins and total games. you have to math it out to get your losses.

Phew! Lucky I'm not some sort of rocket surgeon! I'll never be the wiser.

[StarMarmot]

It's not really major to me, but I'm with you on this Vandark.

Tracking the progress of an organized team or a solo player in some sort of competitive environment is one thing, tracking the progress of how a solo player does in the company of 3 random people just seems odd. Each to their own though, I can understand some people like it.

However, if they call us "fresh meat" instead of our real names to avoid ridicule, I don't think anybody should have to worry about them making stats public.

[Vandark]

PVP is a competitive format, you're competing against someone else for victory so of course it has to show you just how competitive you were!

Yet in no other MMO that exists not even WoW shows your wins and loses, WoW only shows your tottal games played and your rank.
Rift dosn't show wins and loses just how well you did after the match.

Some people dislike having a mark like this on there character, in some cases it's a bad thing to have.

Total games played and rank is enough or just total wins without showing out of how many wins out of how many games.

I don't play to be competitive I play for the fun of it, it's not a competition to me so I don't want to see a win to lose ratio on my profile.

[cotti]

Some people dislike having a mark like this on there character, in some cases it's a bad thing to have.

Surely you mean something like "on there, the PvP Profile".

[Vandark]

Well it's your characters profile, it mine as well be a mark on your character.

[cotti]

Well it's your characters profile, it mine as well be a mark on your character.

No, my character profile is mine, not yours.