White Mage is Poorly designed compared to Scholar

[Bigpurpleharness]

I am not bitter, i am fine/happy actually that our pet no longer hinders our heal, they complement not only me but also my WHM partner in healing when we needed it. Please check in which statement did i classify SoS as infinite mp and then we can take it from there. You look like you are the bitter one, actually you should be, after all you are no longer on the top of the healing chart. *for those who did not get the sarcasm*

Yeah, applying one SCH's opinion to you. That sounds familiar.. Man, it's almost as if someone would make a joke about it. Surely not though, it'd probably go over their head.

[YuiSasaki]

- Heal I now has a 20% chance to proc Improved Cure, which either grants the user 50% increased healing on the next Cure II or Cure III. Lasts 15 seconds.

In order to get more overhealing ? xD

[Nofacekiller]

Patch Notes, 2.2:?

Why blatantly make spell speed superior to DET and CRIT? WHM doesn't need to scale more with a certain stat, all stats need to be equally viable choices. You are essentially screwing over people who geared for things other than spell speed.

We also need to undo some of that medica2 nerf....

[Slark]

I'm not a great Scholar but I usually find myself outhealing a better geared and skilled WHM by quite a margin, because of my unlimited mp. (people keep parsing my hps for some reason, so thats how I know). Anyone else notice the large HPS difference too? Maybe parsers are inaccurate.

Parsers also factor in overhealing. I have tested this before, and as far as I know, you cannot adjust it. If both parties play well, SCH will probably always top parsers due to fairy, SCH having a very relaxed mana pool, and WHM being forced to stress over their low-mana returns. If shields were counted in parsers (which they are not), then that would only skyrocket SCH past their dominance on the parsers. SCH naturally do more overhealing and contribution in lax situations due to mechanics mentioned earlier. Parsers are irrelevant for healers. I can keep 100% uptime on medica 2, and regen on like 3-4 people without going oom on turns 1-4 and any hardmode primal and get like 70% of the groups healing done (putting SCH probably around the 15-20% range). If it did not factor in overhealing, and had a separate calculator for purely overhealing, similar to WoW's meters, it would be valuable and worth looking at. But right now, it is not. The best way to find out how much you are contributing is just to guestimate incoming damage, and how much of it you are actually healing.

WHMs in full ilvl90 are capable of solohealing all HM primals without ballad, as well as garuda EX (I havent done titan/Ifrit EX yet to see).

I have been asking for scaling SoS, a low-potency/non GCD/10-30s cd/instant heal to smooth healing out, larger contributions from secondary stats, and real syngery throughout the class since weeks 1-2 of release, but when I came on the forums about some of this stuff, particularly scaling SoS and an expanded kit, everyone called me a fool, telling me that all of these things are a complete waste of time due to WHMs not needing any of these things, even if they were simply a quality of life adjustment.

WHM needs to stop relying on RNG freecures, non-synergistic PIE, and crutch ballading to sustain their mana pools on hard fights, or when they are learning new encounters. There are so many things I wished SE would do to make this class better. I always preferred the less mobile, burst healers in MMO's. I prefer MT healing over raid-healing. But right now, WHMs kit can be trivalized into three things: Medica 1/2, Cure 1/2, and Regen. I could heal turns 1&2, ultima, and all HM primals with solely those spells and absolutely nothing else. Hell, I can heal most of those things with just Cure 1&2. That, in my opinion, is not a very complete class. Most of our kit besides these abilities are either too weak, have too long of CDs, are very situational, or are just meh in general. Don't get me wrong, I utilize every single tool given to me, including every one of my nukes, which I use on most bosses including Twintania, but WHM is so lackluster right now, because its power is largely focused into about as many spells/abilities as I have on one hand, and we are in less control of our own mana pools than bards are, which is completely stupid.

WHM does not need a buff. WHM's are plenty powerful and viable as is. WHM/SCH is so much better than SCH/SCH it's ridiculous. WHM's have no reason to fear for their raid spots at all. In fact, we are still a more priority spot than SCH's are for most stuff due to Holy and having the upper hand in AOE healing. I also think WHM's make a more independent healer than SCH's do, but thats my opinion.
What does WHM need? WHM needs to spread its power out to its other abilities, which means to lose power in some areas (particularly Regen, Divine Seal, and AOE healing), and have it become spread out in the form of extra tools, quality of life adjustments, and proper class synergy.

I always knew things would turn out in our current situation of SCH becoming more dominant over WHM. The big reason comes from proper scaling and design. SCH has a real secondary stat to scale off of, its mana regen scales, adlo scales extremely well, and pet fixes are an obvious priority for SE as an entire class, half of the healing roles, and thousands of people depend on it to function properly. As a result, SCH starts off a little weaker, but will become vastly superior. Imagine SCH vs. WHM in around ilvl120 gear, by then if nothings changed (which things most likely will be), I could see WHM being pretty obsolete if things continued down on this road. (WHM will probably get some kind of change soon enough).

I personally find SCH to be a pretty ideal healer. It has a unique playstyle, clutch heals, defining features, good scaling, plenty of tools and options, incorporates some decisionmaking, etc. WHM doesn't really have any of that.

/rant

[BrodyAlgana]

I will never understand why people bad mouth the class they play. If another class is better in your mind, then play that one. WHITE MAGE FOREVER!

[gadenp]

Currently SCH have shields. Maybe should give WHM some spells that provide damage mitigation. Maybe WHM should instead have some skills like overcure and procure, Divine Seal that instead provide damage mitigation buffs up to 3 stacks with a 15 secs cooldown.

Instead of Divine Seal increasing healing, maybe it could give 1 stack per healing within skill period.

As for cure 3, maybe over cure should give a stack of damage mitigation too.

For cure 2, procure should give 2 stacks of damage mitigation when pop.

Make Stoneskin also provide a stack of mitigation and increase mitigation buff time to 30 secs and an instant cast.

Medica 2 can a stack of damage mitigation buff instead of regen.

Then give WHM a passive ability that gives a percentage of mp back every time a party mate with the mitigation buff is hit. That would make it more interesting.

Shroud can stay as it is

[SulwynCaliope]

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I'm all for buffing WHM skills and mana regen but I draw the line at giving them shields. If you start giving WHMs shields then one of two things must happen. The shield must suck and not be worth the time to cast or you nerf WHMs raw healing abilities but that would turn them into SCHs. WHMs CANNOT have both awesome healing abilities and awesome shields.

[Psychosamm]

WHM is being nerf for a reason, ppl are spamming Medica II (OP) too casually and then when you pull aggro, you blame the tank for being a noob. When you OOM, you blame SE for giving you broken SoS. You are suppose to use Medica II in-conjunction with Medica. You are suppose to not treat SoS as only a decrease aggro tool, they also regen your mana, so if your SoS is off CD, use it and heal considerately without spamming and you won't need to save it for when you pull aggro from the tank while casting medica II when clearly medica is enough.

*rage modeff* now i felt better :P

You seem to have this connotation that all WHMs act this way... What you described is a BAD WHM, not a normal one. Any WHM who only uses SoS to reduce enmity is bad, and spamming medica 2 is bad. I NEVER use SoS to only reduce my enmity, because i know how to keep the hate low... you have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop.

With the way you guys spam Medica II, no amount of mana would be suffice~

You keep saying this over and over, that WHMs "spam" Medica 2, I nor any other WHM i have ever met has spammed Medica 2. If you know how to play WHM correctly you would only use Medica 2 on massive damage to the whole group, like Titan's stomps. (Or now precast it to help mitigate a bit of damage) The amount of MP it uses is extremely high, you would have to be an idiot to "spam" it. Not to mention the enmity it dishes out.

[Sanguisio]

lol I love SCH v WHMS, really highlights the dim lighted.

[YuiSasaki]

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Please tell me that you are being sarcastic....

The only thing that WHMs should not get are SCH shields O.o