Why is Myth gear as good as Allagan gear, or even better?

[Rainsworth]

That's right! How dare lowlife peons have access to one of the best gear in the game just by doing ilvl55 dungeons?? Ths is BLASPHEMY!!

Actually for most if not all jobs, the BIS gear set is a mix of the myth and the allagan set. So yes you do need to do coil if you want to be in the best gear possible. So to sum it up, a "lowlife peon" like me will not be as good (gear wise) as those who do coil every week.

I'm merely repeating what someone already said in this thread but whatever :P

[Hanabira]

that is min/maxing and something completely different. thats for people who care about an extra half percent of dps. substats, other than accuracy (before cap) dont really make enough of a difference to bother paying attention to them.

[Cubester]

How about you stop thinking about this from an e-peen point of view and start thinking about this from a business point of view.
How will you keep more people subscribed? Because, admit it, the hardcore population is no longer the majority of the MMO crowd these days.

[Rainsworth]

that is min/maxing and something completely different. thats for people who care about an extra half percent of dps. substats, other than accuracy (before cap) dont really make enough of a difference to bother paying attention to them.

Min/maxing matters for people more than you think. This is why there are discussions about BIS gear for each job.

You're the one who have no logical reason to hate the fact that casuals have access one of the best gear in the game.

[Hanabira]

How about you stop thinking about this from an e-peen point of view and start thinking about this from a business point of view.
How will you keep more people subscribed? Because, admit it, the hardcore population is no longer the majority of the MMO crowd these days.

its not e-peen and its not hardcore. you do x level content and you receive x level rewards, either by fighting, or crafting items that came from that content. like i said, its the way everything, games or otherwise works. Not sure why people think this is unreasonable all of the sudden. there are plenty of casual friendly games, even GW2, the current king of casuals games, and not even they have anything as nonsensical as this.

You're the one who have no logical reason to hate the fact that casuals have access one of the best gear in the game.

bolded it for you.. thats just 1 reason, now you give me a reason. its not even a casual thing, stop bringing it back to that. i play probably 2 hours a day tops, im pretty much a casual, i just believe in getting rewards proportionate to the content you do. i wasn't aware that was a thing of the past.. oh wait, its not. this is literally the only game that has ever done this crap.

like i asked before, what are you guys going to do when the ilvl100 gear comes out and these silly low level dungeons arent going to give you that gear? going to cry about it until you quit because leaving WP is scary?

[Cubester]

its not e-peen and its not hardcore. you do x level content and you receive x level rewards, either by fighting, or crafting items that came from that content. like i said, its the way everything, games or otherwise works. Not sure why people think this is unreasonable all of the sudden. there are plenty of casual friendly games, even GW2, the current king of casuals games, and not even they have anything as nonsensical as this.

My point still remains valid. Geared people == happy people == more subscriptions.

And I would like to know why this bothers you as much as it does? Are you somehow prevented from playing the game the way you like to because people receive Myth gear?
If not, why are you complaining?

like i asked before, what are you guys going to do when the ilvl100 gear comes out and these silly low level dungeons arent going to give you that gear? going to cry about it until you quit because leaving WP is scary?

They will be doing the ilvl100 dungeons, just like you. Which they might not have been able to do, had it not been for the myth rewards.

[Hanabira]

really, because the ilvl 100 stuff is going to be easier than the ilvl90 content they couldnt do with ilvl90 gear. actually with the way this game is going, i dont think id be surprised. and you left a part out of the equation. geared people = happy people = nothing to do for another couple of months while waiting on new content = unhappy people = fewer subscriptions

[Mazi]

Okay I haven't really been reading through the thread much but here is my opinion.

At first I was 100% hardest content deserves the best gear so of course I thought Allagan should beat out Myth but after doing Coil many many times and having the RNG gods spit in my face I realize that if Myth gear wasn't there then I would have 2 pieces of ilvl90 cause my luck has sucked THAT bad.

Now if they ever made it where Coil drops weren't random and you definitely could get the gear from beating it then I'll go back to my "Hardest content deserves the best gear" but if RNG continues to be the only thing preventing me from Allagan stuff then I believe it should stay as is.

[Rainsworth]

its not e-peen and its not hardcore. you do x level content and you receive x level rewards, either by fighting, or crafting items that came from that content. like i said, its the way everything, games or otherwise works. Not sure why people think this is unreasonable all of the sudden. there are plenty of casual friendly games, even GW2, the current king of casuals games, and not even they have anything as nonsensical as this.



bolded it for you.. thats just 1 reason, now you give me a reason.

FFXIV works that way so where's the problem again? You need to do coil and farm myth to get your BIS gear. You have been provided several reasons why casuals can do away with 2nd class gear but you are too close-minded to understand it. Those casuals are not ruining your life. Casuals are not torturing you.

[Cubester]

really, because the ilvl 100 stuff is going to be easier than the ilvl90 they couldnt do. actually with the way this game is going, i dont think id be surprised. and you left a part out of the equation. geared people = happy people = nothing to do for another couple of months while waiting on new content = unhappy people = fewer subscriptions

Yes, because infinitely farming stuff for ilvl90 == content.
Let's see what makes people leave faster. Actually getting their items, or not getting them at all due to multiple factors in raiding.