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  1. #1471
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    Abriael's Avatar
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    No, SE stated the majority of FC WILL be able to buy small houses.
    And the future tense is the problem.
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  2. #1472
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    Danny Nobuseri
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    personal housing awww yeaaa im going to start saving up
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  3. #1473
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    all you players complaining about house prices he said they are subject to change and even if the prices are pretty far out there try using the markets as intended you can easily make 100k+ in less than a day. just because he makes it hard to get a house doesn't mean he is trying to inconvenience you. its called a challenge how about you step tfu.
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  4. #1474
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    ArkhamNative's Avatar
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyNobuser View Post
    all you players complaining about house prices he said they are subject to change and even if the prices are pretty far out there try using the markets as intended you can easily make 100k+ in less than a day. just because he makes it hard to get a house doesn't mean he is trying to inconvenience you. its called a challenge how about you step tfu.
    Do tell! If all players can easily do this, there's no reason to keep the details a secret. I personally don't believe it's possible for everyone to become sellers (who would buy? who would need to buy?). But if I stood to gain 50k/day I would not at all mind being proved wrong in this instance.
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 12-27-2013 at 07:45 AM.

  5. #1475
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    Rochambeau's Avatar
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    Valeroyant Strout
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    I am in the BIGGEST fc on Balmung, and we are not even a little bit close to housing. I like working my ass off for things, it makes me feel like I earn it, but as it stands, we're looking at 6 months out......
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  6. #1476
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Do tell! If all players can easily do this, there's no reason to keep the details a secret. I personally don't believe it's possible for everyone to become sellers (who would buy? who would need to buy?). But if I stood to gain 50k/day I would not at all mind being proved wrong in this instance.
    The idea is to watch the market and sell and farm accordingly it works a lot but not all the time mind you but its the only legit way to make money at a good rate its called supply and demand. . out of every 200k I make I put 100k into the fc that I am apart of towards a house people have to work together to get housing its that simple we have hit I think 10 mill so far and we are not by far the largest fc on the server. Just a dam good one at helping to achieve a house. They are not going to make this easy so get over it
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  7. #1477
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyNobuser View Post
    The idea is to watch the market and sell and farm accordingly it works a lot but not all the time mind you but its the only legit way to make money at a good rate its called supply and demand. . out of every 200k I make I put 100k into the fc that I am apart of towards a house people have to work together to get housing its that simple we have hit I think 10 mill so far and we are not by far the largest fc on the server. Just a dam good one at helping to achieve a house. They are not going to make this easy so get over it
    You forget that the vast majority of players don't have several hours a day to dedicate to playing the market, and that little time they get, they actually like to use to play the game.

    Also "get over it" is no valid argument. Thankfully people didn't "Get over it" when 1.0 was released.
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  8. #1478
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    We on Sargatans WERE able to buy a medium house with like 15-20 1.0 players with savings and newly made money
    but now there basically screwing everyone that already bought a house with the though that it would be lowered in 3 months time not 3-4 weeks
    if we knew that it was going to drop that much in such a short time we would have waited till we could just strait up buy a mansion

  9. #1479
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyNobuser View Post
    all you players complaining about house prices he said they are subject to change and even if the prices are pretty far out ...
    Did it ever occur to you that by complaining, the prices might in fact change? That by continuing to complain, they might change faster?

    I mean seriously, who even cares if you have the 20 Million for a home when SE has JUST said:
    'Hey yeah, sorry Legacy, we'll fix the prices so that you 'match' Worlds A in 3 months time'...why would you spend 20 mil now when that money, as SE themselves pointed out, will have at least, 2.5-4.5 times more buying power in 3 months.

    So no smart FC is going to buy on a legacy world now because they'd literally be throwing millions of gil (and hard work) down the drain.
    So Legacy World Housing wards remain empty for the next 3 months...SE could fix this though...by adjusting our prices to meet Group A worlds NOW!

    So your 'work for it I can do it so can you attitude' is moote. Because even YOU benefit strongly from waiting for the 'proper' prices on our servers.
    ...which we still need clarification on. SE, if you are making Legacy worlds wait, the least you could do is give us a min-max range of what our prices will be adjusted to in March. Do we get the 'max price for World A Groups or their 'current Market value in March' price?

    PS:

    100K/day =3,125 days of solo farming for the Largest home the 'best lot. (or roughly 8 years) You could by the ave medium sized home in a measly little 844 days (roughly2.3 years)
    But you say...well, but these are FC housing dummy, My FC mates are farming too....
    About that: Again, lets say you have 40 FC mates all putting in 100K a day (which is way above and beyond what most FC's can expect to see donated).

    So 40x100K =4,000,000/day impressive, and would mean that you could buy a small home on my server in as little as 5 days...but 10 days on your server (which, is that fair to you btw...that your FC has to do DOUBLE the work of mine for the SAME THING?)
    But no FC I'm aware of that is willing to grind out 100K/member is actually going to settle for the 'small house'
    So really its
    40x100K=4Mil/day =78.125 days of grinding...everyone, all 40 of you, a little of 3 months of nothing but farming (6 months on your server for the 'best house)


    And this would be fair...IF:
    1. Every single world had the SAME price
    2. or if the 2+ years you put into saving from 1.0 meant anything...but it's been purposefully been used against Legacy players to just extend the carrot out a little further.


    So it's not about 'can we band together and save the gil' It's about Fairness across worlds, and not screwing over the most loyal playerbase simply because they played your game longer than anyone else.
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 12-27-2013 at 10:38 AM.

  10. #1480
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 86
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0

    With the new announcement made for housing, JP player on JP forums made this spreadsheet* showing how long it will take for each groups price to Group 3 (Group A in the updated housing info)

    グループ = Group
    Date on the left is in Month/Day format
    Next column shows the time drop for every 6 hours
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 12-27-2013 at 12:44 PM.

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