An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[crashoverdrive]

I hate how right now only the jp thread has a chance of eliciting any new response until January. Bad prices are still bad, and the action itself raises questions on whether we should expect similar disparities in in future content.

I like it +1

I hope they will fix the price at christmas ^^

[LoLo]

Two days ago I visited some of the housing areas and I saw not a single house. I was kind of disappointed.

[Rowe]

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The innate fairness humans have is what has allowed civilization to advance. Just as studies have shown people don't like being short-changed they also don't like being overly compensated at another's expense.

Legacy players paid a subscription to SE for 1.0. Our fees were a drop in the bucket in financing the remake but we showed loyalty to SE and the FFXIV team. We have been rewarded with a few minor perks, but we are being punished with the abusively high housing system's scaled pricing. Most Legacy players don't have 10s or 100s of millions of gil, we did things like level DoW & DoM and didn't focus on stockpiling gil. A small percentage did yet we are all lumped together.

I read Yoshi's post and each and every point was specious at best. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see the holes in his reasoning and come up with less abusive alternatives.

[TrystWildkey]

Happy Christmas and other holiday greetings to everyone.

I've decided that in the interest of keeping my sanity and having a happy vacation, I am not going to visit the forums until next year.

I'm tired to my very bones of seeing replies from people on cheap servers who think the prices are fair or fine.

I'm tired of having people come in to the housing threads with the sole intent of trying to take apart our arguments and nitpick points and opinions to death.

I'm sick to my very soul that it has become an impossible thing to have empathy for someone else.

Yeah, it's just a video game, and yeah, I am upset about the housing prices. But I've become exponentially more upset at the human responses on the forums. Instead of looking at all of the housing prices and hearing our situations, people are giddy that it doesn't affect them and are taking pleasure in seeing the misfortune of others.

That is really sad and disheartening.

If you've been part of this thread, and want to keep it going in the hopes that the pricing will be fixed sooner, rather than 'eventually' then keep up the good fight.

If you've been part of this thread and are not affected by the pricing, but have thrown your support with us, thank you!

Again, Happy Holiday greetings to everyone and I hope you all have a safe and happy time!

[MortalWare]

Thus has a very poorly thought out and implemented design decision began to divide what was, in the beginning, a really fun community.

Jumping into FFXIV ARR again was inspiring and exiciting, it was fun. It's becoming less so now as more and more bad design decisions are introduced that serve to set the community at each others throats.

This is FFXIV ARR version of the The EVE Online $70 monocle http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/25/ev...sers-involved/

[Purrfectstorm]

Most of the other students in my Human Services class hated the poor... I swear that the word "entitlements" gets thrown around so much that people have forgotten what it means. When you're entitled to something, you deserve it. In a bitterly ironic twist, the word now means the exact opposite, getting or wanting something you haven't worked for and don't deserve. It is one of a plethora of sentiments used to trivialize another person's feelings like telling someone they hold a minority view or that they're just being too sensitive.

When it comes to FFXIV housing specifically, housing was a big selling point of 2.1, but now we find out that very few players will get to experience this content in the near future and it's as though some sort of trickery was used on us. While the content is technically in 2.1, most of us won't get to experience it until 2.2 or even later. Whether one is happy or disappointed by housing costs all depends on personal opinion but that this is yet another fail on SE's part seems much more indisputable. Game and patch releases should be met with excitement not disappointment.

For the most part, I am happy with 2.1 overall, but the feelings that I and many other players have over housing are not the kind of feelings you should seek to generate if you want people to continue playing your game. Call us "entitled" if you want but that won't do anything to fix the problem and if we quit, who will you have to lord your mansions over?

Gear should be worked for, gear is a reward. Housing is not JUST a reward, it is also content, a mini-game that most players can't play. It is probably useless as this point to offer this as a suggestion but all FCs should be able to have a shack for very little work (and therefore have access to the mini-game that is part of the bigger game that they are paying to play) and the work should go into building a bigger house and decorating it, not having it in the first place.

[Godai]

In every RPG you advance from level 1-99 , it seems strange to me that housing has no advancement. There is no way to upgrade your plot. Either you buy a large or you never get one. I really think they should have made all plots upgradable from small to large, cost would be irrelevant. Atleast you would have something to build up. As it is now it's just a gil race to see who can "raise" the most at the expense of the rest of the community. Wouldn't a FC house, a group of players working as a team, have some way to pull together to afford a house? There should be some way the FC can work towards credit for the house without it just being a gil sink. IMO

[MortalWare]

In every RPG you advance from level 1-99 , it seems strange to me that housing has no advancement. There is no way to upgrade your plot. Either you buy a large or you never get one. I really think they should have made all plots upgradable from small to large, cost would be irrelevant. Atleast you would have something to build up. As it is now it's just a gil race to see who can "raise" the most at the expense of the rest of the community. Wouldn't a FC house, a group of players working as a team, have some way to pull together to afford a house? There should be some way the FC can work towards credit for the house without it just being a gil sink. IMO

This is the game for you: WILDSTAR HOUSING I would have liked to see similar for this game, perhaps a quest chain or even just dailies that the whole FC could do to help get a house, but clearly that is not going to happen. Unfortunately.

[Kinseykinz]

If nothing else, can we get some clarifications from SE:

1. You said that in 3 months, All Legacy worlds could have 'World 3 prices'. But you did not actually specify if you meant 'World 3 prices at that moment' or 'World 3 max prices would now be our Minimum prices'.
Be more clear on this...because while we really under no circumstances should have to wait 3 months for 'fairer prices', at least knowing the exact amounts we need to save over the coming 2-3 months would be nice.
2. Can ALL Housing features be added to ALL sized homes/plots? Before we go dropping Millions of gil on a plot of land, it really WOULD be good to know what we are buying.
3. If someone buys a plot, do ALL plots of that size reset their price points? (People on 'cheap' servers might know this answer....but being on a world where only one house has even sold...I really can't figure this out).

[Lawman]

This is the game for you: WILDSTAR HOUSING I would have liked to see similar for this game, perhaps a quest chain or even just dailies that the whole FC could do to help get a house, but clearly that is not going to happen. Unfortunately.

This is what i would love to see here, or atleast something close to it. i mean come on atm housing has absolutely no benefits besides the "oh look we own a house". There is NO beneficial reason to buy a house period.

You know what woulda made me happier. If SE just said upfront " Hey guys housing just isnt right yet so we are going to delay it. So that it can be what you all have come to expect of us!". If they said that i would be a little sad because of the delay yes, but i would be proud to be here knowing the Devs are working for us and not trying to cover up mistakes.