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    TL;DR, they're already planning to reduce legacy server prices, but they'll be doing it gradually not all at once. As long as it doesn't stay absurd forever I"m not too bothered. Not in any hurry to buy.

    economy isn't really paralyzed, most people on legacy servers just said to hell with it and started buying/selling normally. As the prices come down people may reconsider their options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    TL;DR, they're already planning to reduce legacy server prices, but they'll be doing it gradually not all at once. As long as it doesn't stay absurd forever I"m not too bothered. Not in any hurry to buy.
    Doing it gradually is not a solution, nor is beneficial in the light of account retention. Not to mention that it doesn't help in any way as a gil sink as well, because many people just say "to hell with it" and don't partecipate in the gold sink at all.

    Basically, there's no reasonable reason not to drop the prices ASAP, and there's every possible reason to do it as soon as possible in coding terms.

    economy isn't really paralyzed, most people on legacy servers just said to hell with it and started buying/selling normally
    It's a whole lot slower than it was on December the 13th.
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    People are also forgetting that the current housing is guild halls. They've been expensive in pretty much every MMO with a comparable feature; Personal housing will not cost as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    People are also forgetting that the current housing is guild halls. They've been expensive in pretty much every MMO with a comparable feature; Personal housing will not cost as much.
    Just wanted to jump in here and say I haven't ever seen a Guild House this expensive. Before you begin to list the plethora of 'expensive' guild houses, think about the economy. After an entire week I netted a profit after 2.1 of a total 20k..... Previous weekly profit? 50-100k. 2.1 shot down several farmable markets (fleece, crystals, even materia due to the story rewards).

    Whether or not it introduced new markets is also debatable considering most of the new features were targeted towards crafters / gatherers.

    In any case, even at its lowest, it's still too high. My off the wall theory as to why they're so unobtainable? SE just doesn't have the man power to keep up with the FC's on each server, which I think is understandable. However, they shouldn't have even released this content until they were sure they could provide a decent amount of houses in relation to the number of FC's on each server.

    Many of my friends are already looking to other MMOs. Not a good sign at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    People are also forgetting that the current housing is guild halls. They've been expensive in pretty much every MMO with a comparable feature; Personal housing will not cost as much.
    Hmm...they've been expensive but affordable - Other MMOs also didn't kill some of your currency just because you happen to play a prior version of it. Not to mention they're also affordable out of the gate because the other MMOs weren't afraid to allow players to make gil and have an actual economy rather than people undercutting items into oblivion.
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    Funny

    The thing that I don't see mentioned very often is the fact that housing is... well... completely useless at this point in time.

    The only thing you can do with your house is put decorative furniture inside of it, which does nothing but sit there.

    This is the most confusing aspect of housing to me, and it's something that I don't see mentioned very often.



    If SE wanted to get people interested in breaking their bank/emptying their wallets for housing (which makes sense, to rebalance the economy), they should have provided some kind of an incentive for people who chose to break said bank.

    Even if it's something as trivial as reduced prices for teleports with the addition of a personal airship port. Or, the ability to buy a repair vendor who would take care of repairs for 50% less than normal NPC vendors.

    Right now, the only benefit to owning a house, is that you can tell people you own a house.

    There were two paths SE could have reasonably taken:

    1) Make housing ridiculously expensive (as it is), but give rewards.
    2) Make housing rather pointless (no rewards), but make it affordable to everyone

    They picked neither and really made a mess out of this.
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    Last edited by OSUBuckeye4; 12-27-2013 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    It's a whole lot slower than it was on December the 13th.
    I'll second this. There was a brief bump due to the pvp release and treasure hunting, but now the chinchilla/glacial market is saturated and rapidly crashing, the price of electrum ingots and pvp accessories has plummeted as people discovered the white wolves' gear was total garbage and have stopped buying to save cash, and the price of ores and shards has started to exceed the value of the outputs they create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    economy isn't really paralyzed, most people on legacy servers just said to hell with it and started buying/selling normally. As the prices come down people may reconsider their options...
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Maybe on your server, but things seem pretty normal on Hyperion.
    You must be on a different Hyperion Server than me.

    - Food does not sell like it did before
    - Crafting Mats do not sell like they did before
    - Crafted Gear does not sell like it did before
    - Materia does not sell like it did before | Price dropped drastically
    - Philo Mats do no sell like they did before | Price dropped drastically

    and so on, etc...

    So please enlighten me how buying/selling is currently "normal", it is by far not. I usually made between 700k - 900k Profit a Week, and the last week i did with the very same Items 120k.. ( i am not a "try hard", but i am aiming for a steady income ). I am not worried about my Income, i actually found a couple Items i can sell, to get the same Profit again, but saying that everything is "normal" is simply not the truth. Abriael is pretty much right and that goes esp. for Legacy Servers.

    I have no clue how you make your Gil, but obviously not on the Markets.
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