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  1. #31
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    CYoung187's Avatar
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    This 100%. Best part of 2.1 was doing Haukke and Copperbell hard the first time with 3 other people who hadn't read anything online. Just go in and figure out how to do it yourselves. Now nobody has patience with anything." Oh you haven't done this before, cya I don't have time for you noobs"
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  2. #32
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    illriginalized's Avatar
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    Illmortal Tyr
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Sadly.. when you try to use party finder, many of them require lv. 80 gear (crystal tower gear for example)... so you can't even join the party if you have a relic body, relic +1 weapon, and the rest is DL. So.. if you want to join any party in order to complete a dungeon.. the unfortunate fact is, you'll need to obtain and utilize different i-level gear sets =\

    The whole wait 1 week for gear possession + getting the gear amongst 24 players is pretty insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    This 100%. Best part of 2.1 was doing Haukke and Copperbell hard the first time with 3 other people who hadn't read anything online. Just go in and figure out how to do it yourselves. Now nobody has patience with anything." Oh you haven't done this before, cya I don't have time for you noobs"
    I'm starting to see now is people dropping party as soon as someone dies, usually within phase one.
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    Last edited by illriginalized; 12-24-2013 at 07:15 AM.

  3. #33
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    CSX's Avatar
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    Choco Puff
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    Ramuh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Is there any real incentive to run CT? I mean, I'm in full welfare gear, from what I've heard, the CT gear isn't better then my own. While I say that, is there really any incentive to run BC? My welfare gear is just as good. . .Honestly, at first I was like "yeah, this is great. I can just dedicate a few hours and still get geared out!" now I'm just "man. . .I kinda don't want to play. . .I basically have the BEST gear already. What's the point?" I mean, this is the ONLY week since I've reached max level that I didn't cap out my ToM. . .not because I didn't have time but I wasn't motivated enough to even log on.


    SE should have made the ToM gear drop off CT/BC or at the very least make it the 2nd if not 3rd best gear. I mean, I'm on a JP server, I don't speak a lick of Japanese, I'm a loner with no one to talk to and I google translate my butt into multiple BC groups and totally wung the crap out of 1-4 for gear that I don't need and lost rolls to anyways. I Ran it simply for the sake of saying I've ran it. I ran CT for the sake of running it to, Huehue Manor, Mines and that bird place too. . .don't get me wrong, they're all fun dungeons! but for what? EX Primals and Ultima. . .what's the point? my junk is just as good if not better.

    Honestly, what happend? I had more fun sitting in Ru'Aun Gardens, Ru'Avitau, camping Despot, Faust and others while chatting it up with friends, simply because it was for gear that I knew was for one: Better and two: Was the ONLY way to get it. Now it's just, "meh, I don't have to run it for the best gear. . ."
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  4. #34
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    This 100%. Best part of 2.1 was doing Haukke and Copperbell hard the first time with 3 other people who hadn't read anything online. Just go in and figure out how to do it yourselves. Now nobody has patience with anything." Oh you haven't done this before, cya I don't have time for you noobs"
    This.

    The second day that 2.1 was released, I saw shouts in RT where they wanted to do Garuda or Titan EX but they only wanted
    "experienced" players and that your average gear level better be 80 or above or the leader would kick you.

    Really? It's been out 2 days and people expect others to be magically fantastic at it and they are in such a hurry to get stuff done that they refuse to give someone the benefit of the doubt and teach others the phases so they can in turn teach others so more people know the phases and are available for farm parties. It's ridiculous.

    When I see these kinds of shouts I don't even respond to them (even if I want to do said content and meet their silly criteria) and more often than not, they end up failing and rage quitting after two attempts anyway or take so much aoe damage because they can't dodge/move/understand roles/know the phases that they will blame the healers, tanks, dog, etc. AND THEN rage quit.

    Beggars can't be choosers and if you want a super awesome sweet ass party, make a static with your FC and run it till you spontaneously combust. Don't shout in RT as it just makes people look like condescending asses.
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  5. #35
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Crystal Tower Loot lockout sucks so bad. After running the dungeon more than 10 times the piece of gear I want drops only to get out lotted on it. So then I spent another 6 runs this weekend trying for it again only for it to not drop so I finally just took something I didn't even need.
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  6. #36
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Crystal Tower is a waste of time
    Perhaps the same could be said of all video games...
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  7. #37
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Crystal Tower Loot lockout sucks so bad. After running the dungeon more than 10 times the piece of gear I want drops only to get out lotted on it. So then I spent another 6 runs this weekend trying for it again only for it to not drop so I finally just took something I didn't even need.
    I see your point, but what would you rather have:

    A.) Being able to run content once a week. At the end of the content you're locked out and cannot go back in until reset. There is no guarantee that you will get the drop you want, or even get a drop at all.



    B.) Being able to run content over and over until you get the item you want to lot on, or to go back and help your FC/shouters/new guys get through building rapport and possibly setting a static up (so you can lot said drop if it drops and have clear rules on lotting permissions).

    If you choose A, then coil is for you. Coil is a problem with turn lockouts. I can't count how many times I've seen people shout for T1, T2 when I'm on T4 and need a party. I would have no problem at all going back and helping out on the lower turns so we can all progress evenly. Hell, I run coil once a week and I can't remember the last time something dropped for BRD or WHM/SCH that I lotted for. Hell, I don't remember the last time something for WHM/SCH or BRD even dropped. I basically go for my FC to help out and have a good time.

    I dunno, to me B seems more appealing. At least then I could have the best of both worlds.
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  8. #38
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    Tenku's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Tenku Kibo
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Why are you people comparing CT gear to Coil gear? Coil gear is the best in game while CT gear is not. Coil is an issue on it's own. If anything, Coil should have the loot lockout while CT should be open like the other instances with no loot lockout.
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  9. #39
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten View Post
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    I don't have a problem with Coils Lockout its the best gear in the game. I have to leave it up to RNG that's fine with me and if I don't get anything so be it at least my Team mates did (Static).

    I believe there are better ways for CT gear to work. I ran CT 18 times last week and out of 70 drops (should be 72 but I left after 2nd boss) only 6 pieces of gear someone took. 64 pieces of gear hit the floor that is bullshit, cause there were a lot of under geared people who could have used the gear. The funniest part it was mostly BRD/DRG and a lot of Mage hats.

    I would rather have option C go in and need/greed on anything that I wanted. If anything SE can Change Coils lockout to 1 per 24hrs or 1 per 72hrs.

    But this 1 per week is total CRAP!
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  10. #40
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    Why are you people comparing CT gear to Coil gear? Coil gear is the best in game while CT gear is not. Coil is an issue on it's own. If anything, Coil should have the loot lockout while CT should be open like the other instances with no loot lockout.
    Because its to establish how CT will play out, when phase 2 of CT rolls into action it will have the same mechanics, eventually having gear equal to coil or greater for the later phases and the loot lockout is a system already established.
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