Scholars are taking over the world.

[jumpypuppet]

Both skills which cost a lot of MP to use for a class that have very little ways to regenerate MP in general. Yes, thats kind of a big deal. :P SCH's AOE heals arent bad if you know how to manage your fairy and you never have MP issues.

succor kinda sucks, dude. even succor + WD isn't anything special. WHM are by far the better aoe healers -- it's just that one of the problems right now is that much of the real endgame content lacks heavy aoe damage, so WHM don't seem as immediately necessary. titan HM doesn't count, and much of coil is single-target healing unless you're hitting the enrage on T4. if new turns come in 2.2 and content is introduced which necessitates heavy AOE healing, WHM will again be in the spotlight.

*edit* before i get jumped on i don't REALLY mean that succor "sucks." i'm a scholar. i love it for obvious reasons. i'm just saying when you need to get EVERYONE back up from low hp, that's a job for WHM. i can do it, but not nearly as quickly or efficiently.

[Sebazy]

succor kinda sucks, dude. even succor + WD isn't anything special.

Some math for you!

WD by itself is ~1400/1600ish per target over 21 seconds on a 1 minute cooldown, however! Rouse is also on a 1 minute cool down and pushes WD up to ~2100/2500 per target with my gear, MP free on a 60 second cooldown with a single global cooldown.

To match that a whitemage would need to cast 3 medicas taking ~8 seconds to cast and costing 1116 mp.

In terms of HP per second, over 0 to 20 seconds of AE healing it's actually neck and neck. If the Sch precasts succor and gets use out of that first galvanize then it's pretty much even, if they don't then the whm pulls ahead. If the damage is delivered over multiple hits allowing the sch to get more use out of succor then the whm gets left behind.

So actually no, I disagree with your point about the disparity between whm and sch for AoE healing. Whomever comes out ontop really depends on the situation. Frequent big AE hits favour whm, lots of smaller hits or big bursts of AE spaced out over a minute or more plays to a sch more.

In closing, if you are struggling with AE as sch I can only suggest that you take a tighter rein on your fairies!

[jumpypuppet]

Frequent big AE hits favour whm, lots of smaller hits or big bursts of AE spaced out over a minute or more plays to a sch more.

In closing, if you are struggling with AE as sch I can only suggest that you take a tighter rein on your fairies!

thanks for the...advice... but i'm not "struggling" with anything. not sure how much more tightly i can hold the reins considering that i manually cast every single fairy skill.

and re: "who comes out on top" you just reiterated what i said. obviously given ample time to prep for a big hit, recover and then prep again, succor's shield shines. but if you looked at the examples i cited (tumults, T4 enrage) they are clearly instances of "frequent big AE hits," of which there aren't many, which is why SCH can look better by comparison. if and when mechanics like those become more prevalent in the endgame, WHMs will be sought after to fill that niche because if you're constantly getting hit with pulses succor isn't going to cut it for long, at least by comparison (not even considering that WD has a decent cooldown). that's what i was saying.

but w/e, keep nitpicking

[nocks]

Some math for you! (summary: Scholars have similar AE healing to WHM's)

It's similar in the same way that Benediction is similar to Lustrate, but not quite as nice. The WHM's AE healing is much more flexible, not being tied to a 1-minute cool-down and having your pet be alive. I personally think the game was designed to give WHM's an edge in AE healing, and Scholars get an edge in single-target healing. Of course, both jobs can heal either way, just one has some slight advantages.