White Mage is Poorly designed compared to Scholar

[Advocatus]

Pair a paladin and scholar together, then pair a white mage and warrior together, then come back to this.

[Euphe]

I am slightly confused by what you guys mean by "shallow". I agree WHM is pretty straight forward and doesn't have "quirks" like our other caster brethren. I'm also confused about where SE is trying to go with WHM. We have really no other addage to our role as a healer other than AOE heals. While this is nice it's kind of disappointing. I read other posts on here that made the statement that while SCHs have crit as a secondary attribute WHM doesn't have much of anything. This statement is completely true. I'd like to see spell speed be more a part of WHM since SCH gets crit (both WHM/SCH rely on piety and det). Maybe they could make a way for PoM to be tied into our speed rating? Possibly make spell speed add to our natural MP regeneration(I'm aware piety does this already)? That way they'd be killing two birds with one stone in terms of WHM mechanics... Just some thoughts. Overall I love my WHM and wouldn't trade it for the world however.

[Segata]

assuming that the 10 secondary = .5% healing number somebody mentioned is correct, that's at absolute most a 15% difference between full 90 gear + 95 weapon vs. that same gear with all the secondary stats removed.

it is correct and is quite easy to test especially for spellspeed and critical. Though it assume chain-casting.

10 spellspeed is a .5% increase in casting speed you can just do the math based on ability time, .5% faster casting is .5% more HPS

10 crit is 1% crit. 1% crit is a .5% HPS increase, again basic math. To give you an easy example if you managed to accumulate 100% crit chance you'd be doing +50% healing as each crit heals for 50% more. 1% crit is .5% more.

10 det is the hardest to test. However after repeated testing eating a 10 det food added exactly 5 to the healing range of a heal that previously capped at 1002. it brought it to 1007. 5 healing is .5% of 1000.

[Euphe]

Which sub stat would you guys like to see for WHM?

[Airikay]

Another QQ thread by you, when will it stop. Either quit or change classes. No one cares about you when they can see 10 threads about you complaining on the first page. Each healer has their roles and compliments. For someone who seems to hate WHM so much and love SCH its a wonder why you haven't rerolled. Is this your first MMO?

it is correct and is quite easy to test especially for spellspeed and critical. Though it assume chain-casting.

10 spellspeed is a .5% increase in casting speed you can just do the math based on ability time, .5% faster casting is .5% more HPS

10 crit is 1% crit. 1% crit is a .5% HPS increase, again basic math. To give you an easy example if you managed to accumulate 100% crit chance you'd be doing +50% healing as each crit heals for 50% more. 1% crit is .5% more.

10 det is the hardest to test. However after repeated testing eating a 10 det food added exactly 5 to the healing range of a heal that previously capped at 1002. it brought it to 1007. 5 healing is .5% of 1000.

I just want to say, you can't say heals do a constant % more. Because even when you're doing 1100 the 10 Det will still only add 5 more then ( from your testing at least ). And 5% of 1100 isn't 5 anymore.

[Lorilin]

I rather prefer 1000 QQ threads than 1 guy like you Airikay. This is just a thread where people are discussing about their experiences and thoughts. I dont know where you see here QQ

[Segata]

I just want to say, you can't say heals do a constant % more. Because even when you're doing 1100 the 10 Det will still only add 5 more then ( from your testing at least ). And 5% of 1100 isn't 5 anymore.

actually it is percent based. and its .5%. not 5%.

[Zavi]

I just want to say i really like the ideas of the op
and i hope that maybe SE will listen to you (but i dont think so... most time they dont do)
i would really love to see spel speed matter for my whm as much as crit for sch

dont get me wrong i love the whm...but it would be awesome with faster regen-ticks

so sharazisspecial please keep up the very good work here

and no i do not want the sch get nerfed, i think sch is awesome like it is and should stay like that

[Euphe]

Another QQ thread by you, when will it stop. Either quit or change classes. No one cares about you when they can see 10 threads about you complaining on the first page.

The maturity level in this thread is so outstanding !

[Euphe]

Spell Speed should affect our regen rates along with healing rates and it should play a part in natural MP regeneration. When I say this I mean the same should apply to SCH as well. It's only fair.