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  1. #11
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Saviour Divinemight
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    Wow, dude. Seriously, thank you for being one of the few open minded and selfless people around these forums. You understand that even tho you yourself dont like pvp, others do. And all im proposing is to provide an alternative way to obtain myths. A way that some of us will actually enjoy, as opposed to the mindless dungeon grind.
    There is a difference between "open mind" and "I want everything at same time." There are already a lot alternatives for Myth, for your good effort, but it does not need to be mix with PvP.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 12-21-2013 at 06:36 AM.

  2. #12
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Dorian Makai
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    The moment you open the door for blurred lines, then immediately people will come up to want it a different way.

    Take this for example... You said "A way that some of us will actually enjoy, as opposed to the mindless dungeon grind." Barely a week ago it was, "A way to some of us to actually enjoy, instead of mindlessly grinding fates." Fix one thing, people start asking for another. The moment you make myth available in PVP, you'll get whiners asking for it to be 'fair' and for us to get wolfmarks or pvp gear through PVE content.... It's steps that'll take us into clusterfuck land.

    I'm not saying this to you to be a dick. I'm asking you to be open minded towards the way player mentality gets in these types of situations.
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  3. #13
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    ShinigamiB06's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuellni View Post
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    I understand what you are saying about seeing that someone has experience. but think of it this way. If a player acquired pve gear through pvp, then that person would actually go to a dungeon, and on their first visit they would have better gear that would soften the blow of being inexperienced.

    People grind in MMOs for better gear all the time. And they grind to make it possible to beat hard things, like titan for example. So whats so wrong about grinding and getting better gear...through pvp. Playing with people who are inexperienced is something you cant avoid. its going to happen. and if it happens wouldnt you prefer that the inexperienced player was better suited with better gear, regardless of how he acquired it?
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
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    Trust me, i understand that it is literally impossible to please everyone. But my mentality is, more flexibility, more people are happy. Im asking for another means of acquiring myths, to give people more options. I can also tell you that people here complain about what is fair and what isnt because they have no real understanding of "fairness". Im not asking for myths in pvp because its fair, smart, obvious, right, or logical. Im asking simply because its fun. And adding that would literally not take anything away from those who get myths through other means.

    and i took no offense by your comment. we cool.
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    Jarlax Gennocide
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    I'm not going to write a book and explain why I disagree with OP. I will say it's obvious this is your first MMO forum expirence. Or you would know that gear being too effective for the opposite objective "PVP, PVE" there is community outrage pretty much. PVP and PVE have completely different play styles for classes and when a player only does one or the other usually they are bad at the latter of the two, and neither want those to have the rewards for mastering the other without having completed that content.
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  6. #16
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Dorian Makai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarlax View Post
    I'm not going to write a book and explain why I disagree with OP. I will say it's obvious this is your first MMO forum expirence. Or you would know that gear being too effective for the opposite objective "PVP, PVE" there is community outrage pretty much. PVP and PVE have completely different play styles for classes and when a player only does one or the other usually they are bad at the latter of the two, and neither want those to have the rewards for mastering the other without having completed that content.
    no matter what game it is, I feel the best way to learn your class in and out, is to get good at it in both pve and pvp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
    no matter what game it is, I feel the best way to learn your class in and out, is to get good at it in both pve and pvp
    Totally agree
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarlax View Post
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    well that was condescending. and no, this is not my first mmo. But please, by all means, please write a book and maybe at least one of your arguments will prove me wrong. Acquiring myths and myth armor proves you mastered nothing, except grinding. the gear you get from myths you acquire via grind and not through beating a hard boss, or improving your skills in your class. you can literally have full dl armor without ever doing any lv 50 dungeon outside of WP. and that person would have no skill.

    but clearly my idea has been rejected. i will not say that i am wrong, but i will stop beating what is a dead horse at this point. (i would still love to read your book tho )
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  9. #19
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    Akira Ono
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    Wow, dude. Seriously, thank you for being one of the few open minded and selfless people around these forums. You understand that even tho you yourself dont like pvp, others do.
    LOL at this being a comment only towards someone who thinks the exact same thing as him.
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  10. #20
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    PvP and PvE should have nothing to do with each other. If you want rewards for PvE, you have to PvE. Simple.
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