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  1. #901
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    Crush3r07's Avatar
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    Persevering Crusher
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm not sure how the item/stat weight works, but could someone compare my current set with BIS. I'm slowly working towards BIS, but I would Like to know how my current set compares. I'm not sure if it works like this or which info to give, but curent stats with it equipped:

    STR 474; ACC 486; Crit 487; Det 300; SS 441 +Zenith for WD (46); If possible I'd like to know the damage loss I'm taking in percentage.
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  2. 12-19-2013 04:20 PM

  3. #902
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Thanks, I forgot about the ilvl requirements now. I got a few new pieces from Copperbell HM, pretty much the same stats as AK just shuffled around a bit. I was mainly concerned about the DL, as 2 points doesn't seem worth it for the upgrade when loosing the accuracy. I guess I'll just have to wait to equip everything and see what can be improved from there. Trying to save myth for +1 whm and War uppers. The CT gear looks good but only 1 chance a week to get loot? That's gonna take longer than myth lol
    get your gae bolg +1 and the myth armor as fast as possible, try to get a coil group and some coil drops, myth shoes are a good decision too since the allagan ones are only obtainable via turn 5
    you'll never really have accuracy problems, I'm sitting at like 530 acu with full ilvl90 gear and just wait since 2 monaths for some coil drops to replace some of the myth pieces ~_~
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  4. #903
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Exavion View Post
    Can someone explain to me the difference between stat weights and item budget weights?
    Stat weights are how much "dps value" each point of stat is worth (note: the # itself does NOT equal DPS). However, gear doesn't have stats in equal amounts. If you notice for example, two pieces of similar gear will have 16 crit rating or 11 determination. E.g. SE decided that 16 crit and 11 determination "use up" the same amount of item "budget" / space.

    So if you take the stat weights (per point) for each stat, and multiply it by expected item budget amounts, the result is a number that you can use as a general guide for "which stat dump on items will give me more DPS".

    Item budget weights:

    DTR 2.28
    CRT 2.86
    SS 2.55
    Specifically with these results, you should aim for crit gear first, followed by SS followed by DTR*.

    * As always, with the caveat that no one knows the exact formula for DTR so it might be slightly better than rated and SS has its own constraints and may be slightly poorer than expected based on TP / DoT simulation.
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  5. #904
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    HiveMind's Avatar
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    Hive Deltion
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    Mateus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    This is still the highest modeled DPS:

    H IDC P TTT H TTT
    P IDC H TTT P TTT
    Wow! I switched to this from H P F IDC TTT TTT last night and holy crap it feels so much more fluid and stuff doesn't fall off at the wrong times!! Thanks for this one
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  6. 12-20-2013 04:06 AM

  7. #905
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    Adastraa's Avatar
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    Adastraa Kyur
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HiveMind View Post
    Wow! I switched to this from H P F IDC TTT TTT last night and holy crap it feels so much more fluid and stuff doesn't fall off at the wrong times!! Thanks for this one
    So... do you guys not use Fracture?
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  8. #906
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    Warrlordd's Avatar
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    Genji Xiii
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    I do not use fracture. I have too much SS to make it desirable.
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  9. #907
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Honestly, with CT no longer clipping I took Fracture off my bar entirely. Was only using it as filler anyway.

    I'm thinking Mantra would be good to have, but the prospect of leveling MNK to 42 just doesn't seem fun
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  10. #908
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    Lupus Lazuli
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Honestly, with CT no longer clipping I took Fracture off my bar entirely. Was only using it as filler anyway.

    I'm thinking Mantra would be good to have, but the prospect of leveling MNK to 42 just doesn't seem fun
    I leveled MNK just because I wanted to have it at 50 as an alt spec, but I wouldn't bother getting Mantra is leveling it isn't fun to you. I have Mantra on my bar and pop it just for posterity in high damage situations but that 5% healing really doesn't make much difference.
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  11. #909
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LupusLazuli View Post
    I leveled MNK just because I wanted to have it at 50 as an alt spec, but I wouldn't bother getting Mantra is leveling it isn't fun to you. I have Mantra on my bar and pop it just for posterity in high damage situations but that 5% healing really doesn't make much difference.
    5%?

    Hmm...yeah, probably not worth it. Thought it was 10% :/
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  12. #910
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    Korean Barbecue
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    So Does adding 1 point of skill speed actually increase damage by .146? or just lower your cooldowns.

    I'm debating whether to use allagan/myth accesories or get 5 meld i70 accesories, in order to do the damage calculation i want to know if 1 point of skill speed actualyl adds damage or just lowers cd.
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