An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Lexxuk]

Just posted this in another thread, posting it here too as it relates to Yoshi's comment....

Anyhow, there are 30 plots per ward and 5 wards, which means there are 150 properties per area. so the 3 areas in total hold 450 properties. There are 1007 FC's on Durandal of which 660 have fewer than 11 members which means there are 347 FC's who have a reasonable chance to quickly obtain Rank 6 and purchase an FC property.

Yoshi's lie, err, excuse, err, reason, if the properties were too cheap, they would run out. There are 450 properties, there are 347 FC's who have a reasonable chance of obtaining Rank 6 and getting enough gil to purchase a property, that means there would be 103 properties left over, empty, void of occupants (until the FC's with <10 members finally obtain Rank 6). So, based on my math, there are enough properties to cope with possible demand, so the excuse really doesn't hold water when you work out the numbers......

[OldGeezer]

...Anyhow, there are 30 plots per ward and 5 wards, which means there are 150 properties per area. so the 3 areas in total hold 450 properties. There are 1007 FC's on Durandal of which 660 have fewer than 11 members which means there are 347 FC's who have a reasonable chance to quickly obtain Rank 6 and purchase an FC property.
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And if a FC puts a chapter house in every city-state? So 347 times 3 is 1041 which is a lot more than 450. So supply is an issue,

[saber_alter]

And if a FC put a chapter house in every city-state? So 347 times 3 is 1041 which is a lot more thatn 450. So supply is an issue,

such a thing would be impractical to do, with housing prices.

and only barely a handful of FCs will even be capable of doing so in the first place, unless they are going for the smallest one (even then, ugh.)

[OldGeezer]

such a thing would be impractical to do, with housing prices.

and only barely a handful of FCs will even be capable of doing so in the first place, unless they are going for the smallest one (even then, ugh.)

Housing is a luxury item, by definition it's impractical. Waiting 3 months makes 3 small houses as little as 12 million on many servers. Many FCs could easily achieve this and suck up supply from smaller FCs wanting to buy their first house.

[saber_alter]

Housing is a luxury item, by definition it's impractical. Waiting 3 months makes 3 small houses as little as 12 million on many servers. Many FCs could easily achieve this and suck up supply from smaller FCs wanting to buy their first house.

thats 12 million for 3 deeds. you still have to build the rest of it.

travel isn't very expensive in this game, its easier (and cheaper) just to have one place than 3. after that is just E-peening, and honestly...

a bigger house is better for that. (nothing says i'm better than you than owning a castle.)

[Taaz]

Just posted this in another thread, posting it here too as it relates to Yoshi's comment....

Anyhow, there are 30 plots per ward and 5 wards, which means there are 150 properties per area. so the 3 areas in total hold 450 properties. There are 1007 FC's on Durandal of which 660 have fewer than 11 members which means there are 347 FC's who have a reasonable chance to quickly obtain Rank 6 and purchase an FC property.

Yoshi's lie, err, excuse, err, reason, if the properties were too cheap, they would run out. There are 450 properties, there are 347 FC's who have a reasonable chance of obtaining Rank 6 and getting enough gil to purchase a property, that means there would be 103 properties left over, empty, void of occupants (until the FC's with <10 members finally obtain Rank 6). So, based on my math, there are enough properties to cope with possible demand, so the excuse really doesn't hold water when you work out the numbers......

Quoting for truth!

[OldGeezer]

thats 12 million for 3 deeds. you still have to build the rest of it.

travel isn't very expensive in this game, its easier (and cheaper) just to have one place than 3. after that is just E-peening, and honestly...

a bigger house is better for that. (nothing says i'm better than you than owning a castle.)

And where do many of those people get their money? Crafting! So that base is covered. Like you said traveling is easy so you can easily make millions of gil and have nothing to spend it on. I agree it's e-peeing but what else are you gonna spend the excess money on?

[saber_alter]

And where do many of those people get their money? Crafting! So that base is covered. Like you said traveling is easy so you can easily make millions of gil and have nothing to spend it on. I agree it's e-peeing but what else are you gonna spend the excess money on?

because people don't spend money on useful things? like gear?

i don't remember 2.1 phasing out that aspect.

[Lexxuk]

And if a FC puts a chapter house in every city-state? So 347 times 3 is 1041 which is a lot more than 450. So supply is an issue,

You're assuming every single FC, A) has the desire to do something like that and B) has the funds. Let's assume 10% of the FC's decide to do that, 10% of 347 is say 38, 347+38=385, still leaves a lot left over. Even if 20% of the FC's decided to do that there would still be housing left over.

[Quesse]

The prices have nothing to do with gil sinks and everything to do with not having the servers capable of providing housing for everyone by the time the content was ready to be released. So they just released it at nearly unobtainable cost just so that they could say they fulfilled their promise of delivering housing in 2.1.

Unfortunately this is true. Any attempt to try and come up with some alternate way of gaining a house is going to fall on deaf ears. Yoshi had promised housing and for whatever reason was embarrassed to delay it, or patch 2.1, any further. SE then came up with some bizarre 'excuses' for pricing housing out of reach of 95+% of FFXIV's population. This wouldn't be so bad if he had just be honest with everyone. Maybe I'm in the minority but FC housing was the one thing I was really looking forward to and now I have no idea when it will be possible - even the crappiest of lots/houses.