Huge SMN nerf: we're losing Thunder

[Hvinire]

The team feels that even with the removal of thunder that summoners still remain an extremely potent DPS job even when compared to monk and dragoon post update.

[mythicrose]

The team feels that even with the removal of thunder that summoners still remain an extremely potent DPS job even when compared to monk and dragoon post update.

"Feels" is the problem. While I've no doubt your team has the data available to derive the actual class-to-class comparisons, the player base only has jerry rigged parsign tools. Any tweaks done to a class will cause knee jerk reactions by various people until a working parser available to all is implemented.


Edit : Also, what's with the possible tool tip errors found in some bard skills and dragoon skills (i.e. jump is now listed at 250 potency yet combat log suggests it is still at 200 potency) ?

[Ri_ri]

You know what spell BLM's get from SMN?

Eye for an Eye, Virus?

The team feels that even with the removal of thunder that summoners still remain an extremely potent DPS job even when compared to monk and dragoon post update.

The team also felt that warriors were a strong tanking job.

Edit: casting more Ruin is not fun. I don't care how strong or weak they are, if you remove a debuff from a debuff class, we are gonna whine about it.

[dragonczarxi]

and whats funny about all this? i dont miss thunder and hardly used it to begin with as it was a huge mana drain and still did great dps. the change that i have noticed and the only one is our dots no longer refresh when spread as that accounted for a decent size of aoe dmg and saveing on mana but thats my 2 cents

[Yuripa]

The team feels that even with the removal of thunder that summoners still remain an extremely potent DPS job even when compared to monk and dragoon post update.

I'm so sick of reading you guys always saying "the team feels..." and "we understand" then saying but to bad we aren't changing anything. LISTEN to your customers!

[Orihara_Izaya]

I'm so sick of reading you guys always saying "the team feels..." and "we understand" then saying but to bad we aren't changing anything. LISTEN to your customers!

100% agree, don't just make random changes because you feel like it.

[paradigmfellow]

The team feels that even with the removal of thunder that summoners still remain an extremely potent DPS job even when compared to monk and dragoon post update.

Do not nerf us anymore than this.