Huge SMN nerf: we're losing Thunder

[Faelandaea]

I liked playing SMN . . . but I dumped all of my points in Mind because my PRIMARY role is a healer . . . and they made us choose only one set of stats instead of letting us have two stat sets for SMN and SCH. After reading this information I am so glad I specced for SCH.

[C-croft]

I am excited about blizzard 2.... Now I have something to spam at FATEs. Hurray!

[IllyriaKnotfred]

I am excited about blizzard 2.... Now I have something to spam at FATEs. Hurray!

You mean the fates that will give shit for exp in a couple hours? =D

[C-croft]

You mean the fates that will give shit for exp in a couple hours? =D

Yep. I guess we have to see just how much xp you can get from dungs now.It will probably still be better to FATE run....

[jars]

I'd rather spam miasma 2. at least I can jump while doing it

[Nialle]

It's like 6-10% dps reduction. So now we're equal to BLM, if not still a little bit better in most situations. The horror!

[MakotoNano]

It's like 6-10% dps reduction. So now we're equal to BLM, if not still a little bit better in most situations. The horror!

What would make us better? Burst? Nope BLM beats us. Mana Control? Nope BLM beats us. Single Target Damage? Tied (roughly) AoE Damage? Nope BLM beats us. Utility? We got a combat rez, they got AoE Sleep, take your pick.

[Stevie100]

Alot of people forget that BLM gets shut down the second they have to move, Scathe is there only move attack option minus swiftcast, swiftcast is on a 1 min cooldown and Scathe got nerfed by 20 points. Summoner are made to be a dps class that can move and still get DPS out, as when a Summoner is on the move, we still get Bio, Bio II and Miamasa DOT ticks, Pet damage as well as still being able to atherflow, bio, fester, bane and Ruin 2 while moving, we get swiftcast to get another dot back up on the move once every min. I will agree, the Virus and Thunder nerf sucks, and summoner got the worse changes in 2.1, but Summoner will still be on par with BLM just by the fact movement does not = being shut down :P

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Want to know something funny? My mains are SMN and BRD.

It's like SE is *trying* to make me quit.

Anyhow, I think Obey = Stay now is a bigger issue than thunder. I mean, yeah, hit to dps, but ya know what? Obey is a hit to gameplay.

My mains since launch have been WAR and MNK xDD

[Peptaru]

stuff & Thunder nerf sucks, and summoner got the worse changes in 2.1, but Summoner will still be on par with BLM just by the fact movement does not = being shut down :P

Not you in particular, but generically: You cannot compare current SMN damage to current BLM damage. Black mage is going through changes right now, too. No one can even know what is going to happen to the BLM rotations or speed of rotations until the servers are up again to test -- Likely no more double flare, but maybe no more double speed boost, longer waits for mp, when does AF/UI become active and so on.