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  1. #1041
    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamzaBehoulve View Post
    You can buy a house, the feature is there as advertised, some people just don't have the money to (I don't either, so what? I'll have it eventually). Go work on it now because it's very likely SE sees it as long term goal for players, especially the large houses, so don't expect many changes to the pricing of those.

    That said, I understand it's easier to whine on the forum and hope SE lowers prices.
    Because basic trade in-game currency should not be the answer to this... And well, it's just a joke asking what they are asking. For a feature such as this, specially after all the advertising they did about it, and how they said that 5 to 10 POOR people could buy the smallest one, lol.... Now it doesn't have to be that extreme, but it doesn't have to be that outrageous either. With the numbers Yoshida said in his response the big majority of the players will not get to even experience this content until a long time from now, when new content should be the boom, and not 3 month old stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    I'm sure someone else caught this too, but with 105 pages I've kind of skipped ahead...

    If the devs are worried about the rich buying all the plots, why not just restrict land to one per FC? I don't see why this should even be an issue.
    It has been said, they also said they were worried about reselling and stuff, but why even make a plot tradeable? The benefits should still not matter enough (like selling your own premade house, but that wont happen cause you can't sell it with stuff in it).

    So it just seems like excuses.
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    Last edited by NeruMew; 12-18-2013 at 11:14 PM.

  2. #1042
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luhy View Post
    Houses should be special. Your FCs can all afford small ones. If you want a mansion, it's a mansion. Not everyone gets mansions.

    If SE shoulda did anything, they shoulda rolled back all the people who did the gil exploit on Atomos and ruined it for the rest of us who actually earned some gil. Too late now.
    Houses should be obtainable and for most to have. One of the strong points on this patch, and most of us can't even get it.
    It's fluff content. They are not meant to be hardcore. Sure, make a bit challenging but come on man.
    How backwards can you get? The gear in this game is a snap to get.
    Meanwhile, what should be casual and a side thing to do is insane to get.
    Over a FC house that one person has control over, and you can get kicked out any time.
    Jooooooooooooke.

    I have no idea what they are even doing to this game some of the time.
    All I see are BS excuses everytime I turn around.
    "Don't want people to buy all the plots." Restrict plots 1 per FC then....Dur.
    "We didn't have enough time to add more servers." You had plenty.
    "We gave the pricing 3-4 days before the patch, so we didn't collect much feedback."

    Th Holy Grail of it all is that one bolded. This is what you get when you release junk at the tail end of it all.
    Gives us asshole prices, tells us "well in 3 months..." What a waste of resources for Housing is right now.
    I'm sorry, I'm not on this game 24/7 to mindlessly Gil grind.
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  3. #1043
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamzaBehoulve View Post
    You can buy a house, the feature is there as advertised, some people just don't have the money to (I don't either, so what? I'll have it eventually). Go work on it now because it's very likely SE sees it as long term goal for players, especially the large houses, so don't expect many changes to the pricing of those.

    That said, I understand it's easier to whine on the forum and hope SE lowers prices.
    No, most people can't. Not even in the long run. You've got it easy, as do I, because we're on a relatively cheap server. But 40 million gil for a small sized plot is ridiculously expensive.
    Also, I'd appreciate it if people stopped using the argument that we want large sized plots, because in fact most people don't. I think a lot of people were aiming for medium, since that's a good size for an FC house, but it turns out they can't even afford the small sized plots. Not now, not in 3 months, and most likely not in a year.
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  4. #1044
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    Why is anyone even talking about 'housing' costs???.
    The prices are ONLY for the land the houses will be built on.
    They don't have houses.
    WE have to buy each and every part of the buildings and put them together. THEN start putting furniture and such in them. Have y'all looked at the cost of any of THAT yet?
    I saw a section of wall going for 1 million, a chair for 300k...
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  5. #1045
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    Why is anyone even talking about 'housing' costs???.
    The prices are ONLY for the land the houses will be built on.
    They don't have houses.
    WE have to buy each and every part of the buildings and put them together. THEN start putting furniture and such in them. Have y'all looked at the cost of any of THAT yet?
    I saw a section of wall going for 1 million, a chair for 300k...
    Because we're taking stuff step by step. Can't even look at the furnishings right now, we're too busy pissed off about the damn house price itself.
    So buying the house, peoples will be bankrupt lmao. Time to go back to Gil grind for a plant that probably costs 1 gagillions.
    Yoshi totally forgets about the furnishings too.
    He too busy crying tears about how he can't do this and that. This was a supposedly good patch for Carpenters.
    Too bad they won't have much role till 2.3..where P.Housing is suppose to have fair prices or when they fix these sad prices.
    I can only pray the 12 P.Housing won't be so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    I saw a section of wall going for 1 million, a chair for 300k...
    Mostly speculative pricing really. Seems like all the bits can be crafted, haven't figured out where some of the materials come from yet, but I'm sure they won't be too hard to acquire.
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  7. #1047
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    for me it isn't about the ridiculously expensive house anymore which i frankly didnt needed so far and can live without (although it would be a nice addition if having access to and influence my decision if to keep playing maybe)

    its about the whole principle of hyping a new game feature for months and on the day they release make it virtually non existent for most players , this is what makes me sad , we have to give feedback because this not acceptable , today it was houses , next time it may be something more important we dont get a chance to experience
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  8. #1048
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    Furniture expensive, because none of the crafters care enough to make them, while most of them pissed at this ridiculous unreasonable excuse (avoid weathier players buy up all the plots, while they don't limit each FC can only occupied 1 Plot of land, which it is not necessary to have super extremely high prices out)
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  9. #1049
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    What many here fail to realize is the terrible domino effects of this ourageous FC Housing pricing on (already colapsing) game's economy:

    - People will now hoard even more money to be (maybe) able to afford crappy FC shack thus spending less on Maket boards and decreasing the income of others (I can already see a huge drop in sales since patch notes release on our server!)
    - The promissed "bloom" of the crafters and gatherers due to the FC Housing turned instantly in the doom - both because the point above as well as nobody will be buying any housing items any time soon as they have no use for it and once they'll have use for it (in about 3 to billion months) they'll have no finances left o purchase it anyway - so basically there will be a couple of totally basic, empty and unequipped FC houses just to show of and bunch of empty plots ...
    - people instead of helping each other for free will start charging for everything, making the poor players even poorer and those rich unscrupulous ones even richer thus even more widening the gap.
    - RMT will profit like never before and with non-existent / fictional RMT "task force" they have nothing to be affraid of at all. Once the SE WILL eventually catch up and start seizing the plots and houses because (maybe) one or two FC members used RMT gil it will create even more chaos and outrage.

    Well done (NOT)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeruMew View Post
    And lol... special task... lol... well last time I posted something similar to this, derpity derp! BAN HAMMER! (cause apparently you can't speak very openly, I wonder if I'm saying too much... -shivers-)
    Ahh - I've got banned here once already as well - tax for "freedom" of the speach I guess. Not really sure thought how not being able to post here for 10 days will really "punish" anyone (if anything it's more of a relieve haha) but whatever ...
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    Last edited by HEC; 12-19-2013 at 12:21 AM.

  10. #1050
    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEC View Post
    What many here fail to realize is the terrible domino effects of this ourageous FC Housing pricing on (already colapsing) game's economy:

    - People will now hoard even more money to be (maybe) able to afford crappy FC shack thus spending less on Maket boards and decreasing the income of others (I can already see a huge drop in sales since patch notes release on our server!)
    - The promissed "bloom" of the crafters and gatherers due to the FC Housing turned instantly in the doom - both because the point above as well as nobody will be buying any housing items any time soon as they have no use for it and once they'll have use for it (in about 3 to billion months) they'll have no finances left o purchase it anyway - so basically there will be a couple of totally basic, empty and unequipped FC houses just to show of and bunch of empty plots ...
    - people instead of helping each other for free will start charging for everything, making the poor players even poorer and those rich unscrupolous one even richer thus even more widening the gap.
    - RMT will profit like never before and with non-existent / fictional RMT "task force" they have nothing to be affraid of at all. Once the SE WILL eventually catch up and start seazing the plots and houses because (maybe) one or two FC members used RMT gil it will create even more chaos and outrage.

    Well done (NOT)!
    Yup, once all this gil gets drained out of the economy, I fear everything will be both, TOO cheap, and too hard to afford lmao. Cause we'll see that 20kgil will be much more worth than the mere scrap change it is now, and no one will want to pay that for anything, cause they'll be completely broke.

    And lol... special task... lol... well last time I posted something similar to this, derpity derp! BAN HAMMER! (cause apparently you can't speak very openly, I wonder if I'm saying too much... -shivers-)

    Well said though.
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