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  1. #891
    Player Xakery's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its all content we pay for and we should all be able to experience.
    so in your mindset, because I pay taxes and may be capable, I should get a trip to the moon? The example is far fetched but just because a few can get something quicker than others doesn't mean everyone should have it right at the starting line.
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  2. #892
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    Mitchell Mccoy
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    I don't understand why you couldn't just limit plots to ONE person and ONE FC.
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  3. #893
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    because content is content doesnt matter if its raid content or fluffy content its all content we pay for and we should all be able to experience.
    You're right on that. But not everything is designed for everyone. In this case, the content of housing (in general) is for everyone, but it's NOT for everyone to do immediately. What if someone puts in zero effort to acquire the funds (i.e. meeting the requirements to participate in content), does this person still deserve to partake in something others have put effort into? Just because you pay to play an MMORPG, doesn't mean you're entitled to everything in it. You're entitled the opportunity to work towards it, but that's all.

    It's a long-term goal that some can afford now, and many can't... again, because it's a long-term goal. Many people tend to spend years with their guild/LS/FC in MMORPGs, in what way does that imply things need to be acquired immediately? If you belong to a large FC (nearly hundred, if not hundreds of active members), and need an L house on a high priced server, the trek is significantly easier than it seems. Especially when you consider the significant price drops over time. If you lack patience, you're not playing the right genre of game. Just like someone who plays puzzle games but hates doing puzzles. MMORPGs thrive on long-term goals, which goes hand-in-hand with putting in necessary degrees of effort and having patience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    They don't, that's the issue, just because my server is legacy and has a very active and healthy economy doesn't mean I should have to go out and do the same fates and quests and crafting that you do on a new server 9 times as much to be able to enjoy the same content you do.

    in a few months time, when all of the large plots on your server have been sold and you're getting new ones, and no one on my server can afford to buy them yet so we get screwed for hardware, it'll be more apparent. In the really long run though i'm sure it'll balance out and in a year my FC will be able to finally get a plot that you guys have already had for 9 months.
    Actually, with the change they made (or are making), your price drops will be making plot costs the same as ours in group 3. I'd imagine that'd be quite a significant help.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 12-18-2013 at 06:30 AM.

  4. #894
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    There are economic differences between servers though,
    Ok, yes, there are. However, there are new players on ALL servers. How about another comparison.

    What if you chose a Legacy server because your friends were there. But due to the Legacy server having a higher population that already had relics, they decided to slow down this progression for everyone. Now, instead of going through the same amount of effort to get a relic as other servers, because you're on Legacy and other players already have them, you have to win Chimera 10 times instead of 1. You also have to beat each hard primal 10 times as opposed to 1. You have to get the base weapon and meld it 10 times instead of just 1.

    But, that's not fair!!! Oh, but you see, there are so many people that already have relics, even some players that have a relic for every job, so you see, we needed to limit the number of people that got relics. So sorry, these requirements will ease up in the next 3-6 months. In the meantime, enjoy the rest of the content!
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  5. #895
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    house being the fact it is fluffy content should be avaible for everyone immediatley thats kinda the whole point of fluffy content. it is something to do while you kill time waiting for raid night. being we actually have to waste LARGE protion of our gaming time to be able to use the fluff content is dumb. NO other game has made it this hard to get player or guild housing. its just dumb.
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  6. #896
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    Beeraga Z'destroyer
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    So wait, because 10ish players on legacy servers have 100 million+ gil, everyone gets shafted with these prices? What an idiotic argument. Nearly as idiotic as suggesting they can't just "add more servers in a matter of a week or two" for content they have been theoretically planning for and marketing for over a year......

    Stop insulting your player base with BS excuses.
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  7. #897
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    Land should be affordable id say no more hten 10mil for a large plot 1mil for a small. then the houses cost you to build the houses and upgrade the houses... the gil dump should be on things That go in the house or on the house or around the house. the gil dump should not be on getting started with the house.
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  8. #898
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...44#post1685344

    They really should've just pushed Housing to a later patch and launched with personal first if that's the stance they're taking.

    The thing about Housing is that it was so hyped up, and there absolutely is a ton of content that has been added to the game in order to support it. It was presented as something that could be accessed, even if it was only a small plot, by the casual player.

    Access to personal housing first would've allowed players to start consuming most of this content and start to explore what they could do with their own small space. With that, releasing FC Housing (even with the prices as high as they are) would've been less of a punch in the gut and felt more like something to work towards rather than a glass ceiling you'd never be able to break through. Rather than encouraging your imagination to wander, we're left confused as to why we would want this content that's so prohibitively expensive.
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  9. #899
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    Noel Kreiss
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    The amount of excuses given is too damn high.

    If you didn't give us the friggin' prices 4 days before the god damn patch, you would had collected all
    the feedback you needed.

    Moral is: Stop telling us BS when it's too late in the day.
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    Last edited by Arriverderci; 12-18-2013 at 06:32 AM.

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    Beeraga Z'destroyer
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    BTW, Yoshi thinks 80% of FCs will be happy to spend 3 months grinding gil to buy a glorified mog house from XI. Seriously, how out of touch can a game producer be? Embarrassingly so.
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