An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Alhanelem]

In each legacy World, there are more than ten players in possession of over one hundred million gil.

In other words, 10 players that can cover not even ONE THIRD of the initial price of the best housing? Come on, get real here. It wasn't necessary to price it so even the richest players couldn't afford it for 3 full months.

[KV-1]

I had about 240k after completing the story. This was with taking my gear upgrades, doing all dungeons and buying no gear off the AH. As I understand it, you can make considerably more if you take the Tin/Bronze/Silver pieces instead of the gear rewards, however I wouldn't really expect all players to do this, nor do I think they did. 200k-250k is usually the quoted price for a 1-50 story person as I have also seen people who only made it with a little over 100k.

Yeah, I always took the pieces because I geared through dungeons mostly, so that would explain why I made so much.

[Sunarie]

Because our servers have much more money floating around. This is not a difficult thing to understand. The presence of rich players drove up the amount of gil in circulation, making it easier to get gil by converting materia or crafting two-star armor or selling Titan or what have you.

I would be interested in a thread that compared auction house prices for various items across all servers. Gil on the server doesn't equate to gil in circulation.. and unless the prices of everything on the AH are 5x's that of other servers then that point is a bit moot. People already in the have-not group don't have the ability to make up the price difference.

[Roris]

A 2.1 feature becomes available in 2.2, great planning.

[MageBlack]

But....
You knew this was coming.

You knew this was coming from the start.
Actually... You knew this was coming pre-2.Ø...

I just...
Why?
Why has it not been decided that the data centers should be upgraded to handle the game and all of its features in full?
Why does this continue to be such a limiting factor, and how long is this going to keep cropping up?

I wasn't likely to get FC housing anyway due to the rank requirement and the fact that, even at 'reasonable' prices, it'd be probably beyond a 1-person FC, but the thing that's been eating at me through all of this and what has made me so negative is specifically the concern expressed above; we keep running into issues because not enough investment is being made into the hardware...

I can tell you why. They were remaking a failed game. They didnt anticipate this kind of warm reception. its why there were overloaded servers at launch. They are having to readjust all their plans to adapt. And no company can win for losing.

"OMG game failz! not enuf servars, game iz dying!"
or
"OMG game failz! They are closing servars cuz they had too many!"

Personally it looks better to have to make more servers than it does to have too many and have to close and merge them. One is a problem of success the other is a problem of dropping numbers.

[HunkyJimpjorps]

I would be interested in a thread that compared auction house prices for various items across all servers. Gil on the server doesn't equate to gil in circulation.. and unless the prices of everything on the AH are 5x's that of other servers then that point is a bit moot. People already in the have-not group don't have the ability to make up the price difference.

It's anecdotal, but I remember fairly early on, tome mats on Excalibur commanded about double or three times the price of those on a friend's non-legacy server. The difference has narrowed recently as the gear/level disparity narrows and supply increases, but I know a lot of new 2.0 players who were able to get in on the ground floor and build up a nice nest egg by selling tome mats to legacy players.

[KV-1]

Because our servers have much more money floating around. This is not a difficult thing to understand. The presence of rich players drove up the amount of gil in circulation, making it easier to get gil by converting materia or crafting two-star armor or selling Titan or what have you.

Exactly. You could make a TON of money early on in 2.0, especially before the philo prices dropped.

What I'm saying is that now it's much harder, philo items have gone from 70k to 15k, crafted gear prices cut to 1/4 of previous prices, Titan runs go for like 300 instead of 700k. Unless you were on the money making that happened early 2.0, the housing prices are just insane.

[Onyxys]

By making such VERY high prices SE just wants to MOVE OUT great amount of money from the game. And I agree, that such prices can handle only the BIGGEST FCs and they will buy all houses.Most of other FCs will not be able to see these new part of content- very stupid, SE. Once again you cut out thousands of people from game's content. And I agree, that SE knew about server-hardware limitation- why wasnt made expansion work before the patch to make much more lands for housing? Fail... again

[Johnnies]

I think no matter how this was implemented, it would have been wrong for a lot of people.

I'd much prefer they spend more effort on new primal battles, reintroducing NMs (non-fate), etc. not furniture for my house.

It's something to work toward. If housing is so important to you, there's always The Sims.

As for hardware - they weren't anticipating the game to be as popular as it is. This you know. Bear in mind that SE was on the brink of dissolving and pretty much everything was riding on ARR. It was well-received and now they are working hard to keep up and keep it going. Upgrading/Adding data center capacity is not an overnight thing. Besides costing 100's of thousands/millions of dollars, in many cases facilities need to be upgraded to support additional servers (power, HVAC, etc.). It isn't as simple as just plugging a new one in.

[Lazypete]

But....
You knew this was coming.

You knew this was coming from the start.
Actually... You knew this was coming pre-2.Ø...

I just...
Why?
Why has it not been decided that the data centers should be upgraded to handle the game and all of its features in full?
Why does this continue to be such a limiting factor, and how long is this going to keep cropping up?

Think of it this way! You have diablo 3.. everyone is psyched up about it a lot, but then the game come out and guess what ITS A HUGE DISAPOINTMENT. If you have invested in a TRUCK LOAD of hardware... well it`s there doing nothing and not paying for itself because everyone left the game because it sucked. Well have yo played FF11 and FF14 (not 2.0) I played 11 and it sucked... just sucked big time...

So if you invest too early in a lot of hardware and your game doesn`t live to expectation if you ordered the hardware your job is on the line.

Big company learn from these....