Why are Black mages so upset about PVP?

[Lobselvith]

I mean the only class that will be able to beat you in pvp is going to be SMN...

Don't you mean the only class that can beat everyone is SMN?? ;-)

[MisterChubu]

You guys really think they have not tested BLMs out in PvP before release? Why do you think scathe got nerfed? because of how overused and OP it is in PvE content? damn creatures… play the content for a bit before you come here and whine like lil b*tches

Scathe is so far from OP, BLMs barely use it

[BoltMage]

only ones who can even touch a blm at range will be brd(or other casters), not the tank. You do know there are several abilities that let use actually cast spells. You know like surecast and Equanimity. What makes you think you will be able to stop it coming?

I've covered that on post #18 of this thread...

Once a melee zones in on a BLM what tools does the BLM have to get away?

blizzard ii(for bind) has cast time
freeze has a cast time
not sure how the new pvp sleep works but probably has a cast time?(3 min cd)
lethargy is the only tool that you have w/o blowing cds! maybe pvp sleep if its instant.

so only way to kite is with cds:
1) swiftcast (1 min this will work)
2) surecast (30 secs but can be silenced?)
3) the pvp skill where your casts are uninterrupted for maximum of 20 secs (5 mins immune to silence? idk)
4) pvp sleep (3 min if its insta cast)

can you think of anything else? if you can't you can see how limited it is

Keep in mind that every time you cast a fire I, melees gain 5 feet forward. Unless you are planning on running around like an idiot spamming nerfed scathe and waiting 1 min for swiftcasts, you are going to get zoned in by melees.

[Rhas]

Scathe is so far from OP, BLMs barely use it

Their prerogative but I kind of loved it when I would get a 600+ scathe in while running around (before 2.1)

[bjoswald]

The natural instinct for [almost] every player in [almost] every MMO is to whine as soon as the patch notes are up. In fact, I think it's an unwritten law.

[Zenfull]

I mean do you guys really just want and new ability say called.. "I win" cast time instant damage is 100% of opponents hp? seriously?

[Aethaeryn]

Scathe is so far from OP, BLMs barely use it

That was his point. It was nerfed in preparation for how it'll be used in PvP.

However, I use Scathe quite a bit in PvE, so nerfing it for PvP really ticks me off. Yoshida said they wouldn't be nerfing PvE skills for PvP balance, and that was the whole purpose of creating skills for PvP only. Other games screw up PvE efficacy of classes when they balance things for PvP... This is why a lot of games make class abilities have different number values in PvP and PvE, so they can be balanced SEPARATELY.

[MichuAmane]

Hey friend gave me a great tip for pvp: Hide behind summoner's garuda! She will hopefully push the attacker back! In fact let every magic class have a garuda.

[Untucoi]

You guys really think they have not tested BLMs out in PvP before release? Why do you think scathe got nerfed? because of how overused and OP it is in PvE content? damn creatures… play the content for a bit before you come here and whine like lil b*tches

Scathe got nurfed to further drive home the point that Yoshi P and everyone else at SE hates... Hates... HATES BLMs. Once again lets count the ways. Shittiest and most usless job abilities (before you even say flare long cast time aoe fire 3 that uses ALL MY MANA), crappiest looking gear EVER, nurfed, and oh yeah take our fave aoe nurf it and GIVE IT TO EVERYONE!

[Vampt]

This has prob already been said, i didn't look. All of the casters get a pvp skill that has 10 seconds of no spell interupt. u might not always be able to go uninterupted, but when you do you drink dos equis.