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  1. #391
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    Bensmack's Avatar
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    Briareos Shiro
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    The best thing we can do is cancel subs, for those who are upset over this absurd barrier-of-entry to content we've been looking forward to since launch! I, for one, just cancelled my sub...was supposed to renew tomorrow on patch release day, how convenient huh?

    I will no longer be throwing my hard earned money away to this idiotic dev team and I suggest everyone else that's unhappy do the same and stop flaming on these forums, especially since we get idle responses like the ones from the team here-in!
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  2. #392
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    DoctorMog's Avatar
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    Doctor Mog
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Bensmack View Post
    The best thing we can do is cancel subs, for those who are upset over this absurd barrier-of-entry to content we've been looking forward to since launch! I, for one, just cancelled my sub...was supposed to renew tomorrow on patch release day, how convenient huh?

    I will no longer be throwing my hard earned money away to this idiotic dev team and I suggest everyone else that's unhappy do the same and stop flaming on these forums, especially since we get idle responses like the ones from the team here-in!
    Mad props for voting with your wallet.
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  3. #393
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    Doki's Avatar
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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Somehow pricing in-game items/housing based off of gil that RMT has generated seems like a HUGE failure. The majority of the server population doesn't purchase gil from RMT. All you are doing by pricing this was is ENCOURAGING people to RMT.
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  4. #394
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    Yolteotl's Avatar
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    Yolteotl Divinicus
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Somehow pricing in-game items/housing based off of gil that RMT has generated seems like a HUGE failure. The majority of the server population doesn't purchase gil from RMT. All you are doing by pricing this was is ENCOURAGING people to RMT.
    But Yoshi-P's crystal ball deciphered what is and is not RMT currency... even though it's still circulating in the game and not being addressed by any Special Task Force or GM... LOL

    His stupid comment that is impossible to be true and my sarcasm aside; you are exactly right that RMT gil values will always pollute generic statistics of a server's wealth; as will a minority of extremely wealthy Mercs. If they weren't lazy and actually tried for fair-housing prices; they would of based the decision on the market value of gil on each server; in which there is very little difference between Legacy and the lower population servers.
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    Last edited by Yolteotl; 12-17-2013 at 10:50 AM.

  5. #395
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    Desteroth's Avatar
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    Desteroth Fainsbarow
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    Malboro
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    I think the prices are just fine for Marboro. Knowing the patch was coming we started collecting gil for our housing as sure, we can't get the large plot of land that we wanted to but we can get the best small piece of land and work our way to getting a large one. Gives us all something to work towards in the free company. 100 mil is a lot for 1 person, but for a collective group of up to 512 people its cake.

    Even if you had 50 people and each donated 2m you can get the house. If you don't have that kinda gil figure out what you can do to make it.


    I do agree that legacy people got screwed though.
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  6. #396
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Please tell me how being defensive to people upset about the prices is helping the players or the game. I get you want long term goals, I get you're starved for long lasting content because the storyline was so easy. Maybe it's just me but I can see all the possibilities making the base entry content more widely available can bring. I can see people in non crafting FCs saving up the money to buy that cool piece of furniture crafted by someone else, I can see people doing Grand Company content for seals to buy GC furniture which we have to do anyway, I can see people setting a goal to save up to upgrade their base house's size down the road which we can't do at all yet, I can see people doing primals and Coil for their furniture mat drop. All those are things that the high price of the entry barrier won't allow the majority of people to do until pretty much the next patch in early March.

    I get they're willing to change it, that's great, a time frame would be nice because we've been told multiple times in the past a fix is incoming but never given a set time frame. Error 3012? A fix is coming sure, it ended getting fixed two weeks after launch. Problems with people in new servers running out of gil from repair and teleport costs? Sure a fix was coming, it ended up getting fixed a month later. I get how you feel you have to say "How is complaining helping the game" while completely ignoring all the well thought and presented points that have been brought up multiple times and you really want to disregard them as "whining".

    So please, please do elaborate on your plan to help the game by simply defending it and lashing out at people.
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  7. #397
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    Traek's Avatar
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    Traek Darksoul
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    As a Legacy player, quitting 1.0 early on with no gil, 0/10 SE.

    All the new players/fcs are really getting screwed here. /disappointed
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  8. #398
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kazin View Post
    If you cut all the house prices to 1/10th like this letter is asking you'd see a lot of people forming solo-FCs just to buy themselves a house. {No Thanks.}
    Would you mind explaining why exactly should that be a problem or why even should that personally bother you at all? For me (and not only as crafter) - more FC houses mean more "customers" to buy (not only crafted) housing stuff, more ways to sink the gill etc. I fail to see any negatives in that apart of the cost and maintaining of the additional instances servers which should be well than covered by player's sub anyway.
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  9. #399
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    Meenkieblade's Avatar
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    Meenkie Bladedancer
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    GREAT SUGGESTION FOLLOWS! (imo!)
    Lets see starter houses! Something around a few hundred thousand gil or so...with a few things customizable.
    About the equivalent of a van down by the river...Maybe a shack on a hill...Thief's den!
    Maybe these could be located in the hamlets scattered around! Kind of like living in the suburbs.


    =============================================

    It's fine to have some high rank housing to work towards! I'd love to see our FC upgrade from a p.o.s. first house to a mansion at some point!

    The crappy thing is...these HUGE price tags to even get started is just wrong. If anything, it encourages players to buy gil and get banned in the process. >_< Face it, this isn't the best way to get an FC to work together. SE is kind of assuming everyone in an FC is driven to build the bank....and that's just not true. Only the most hardcore FCs have most of their' members grinding like that. It's just not realistic.
    (5)
    Wishing for cheap housing in the hamlets...



  10. #400
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    Malakai's Avatar
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    Malakai Bazluth
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Sadly my rant can't be posted, not even on my blog on lodestone. So I put it all here on tumblr.. lol have a read if you want. It's just my two cent on it.

    http://arroh.tumblr.com/post/7024661...ompany-housing

    I'm pretty downhearted about housing too but you really have to see it from the developers view point and not just our own. Yea it sucks and yea we looked forward too it but sadly it's just not what we were expecting. I'm pretty sure some people who were like me and all excited about housing but crushed after seeing housing prices can relate with what I said in my rant about why the devs probably have did things the way they did for the time being. Read it, think it over some, or tear it apart piece by piece. I'm not white-knighting the prices or anything, I disagree with them, I am however trying to see things from the devs point of view tho and bring that into a better perspective with the majority of us who can't afford housing prices.
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