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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubester View Post
    Hard data that seems to be flawed. I say this because according to SE, our FC should have about 4 million lying around which I'm not aware of? I think not...
    I'm not sure where I said that SE said that the average guild has enough for a house right now. Show me please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteDragon View Post
    I'm not sure where I said that SE said that the average guild has enough for a house right now. Show me please.
    I'm not sure where I said that you said that. SE on the other hand?
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
    We also examined all of the free companies across all Worlds, how many members there were, and how much gil each member possessed.
    So yes, flawed data according to what SE said for two reasons:
    1. Housing should be available right off the bat, not in 3 months. If it were, they should've just announced prices now and released the housing in 3 months.
    2. They're taking into account how much money individual members have. Which is, as I stated before, not indicative of the FC's actual available funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubester View Post
    I'm not sure where I said that you said that. SE on the other hand?


    So yes, flawed data according to what SE said for two reasons:
    1. Housing should be available right off the bat, not in 3 months. If it were, they should've just announced prices now and released the housing in 3 months.
    2. They're taking into account how much money individual members have. Which is, as I stated before, not indicative of the FC's actual available funds.
    They never said housing was based off an average in that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteDragon View Post
    They never said housing was based off an average in that post.
    Then what is it based off of according to you?
    Whatever the answer is to that question, I highly doubt it'll justify the current pricing scheme.
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    Sadly my rant can't be posted, not even on my blog on lodestone. So I put it all here on tumblr.. lol have a read if you want. It's just my two cent on it.

    http://arroh.tumblr.com/post/7024661...ompany-housing

    I'm pretty downhearted about housing too but you really have to see it from the developers view point and not just our own. Yea it sucks and yea we looked forward too it but sadly it's just not what we were expecting. I'm pretty sure some people who were like me and all excited about housing but crushed after seeing housing prices can relate with what I said in my rant about why the devs probably have did things the way they did for the time being. Read it, think it over some, or tear it apart piece by piece. I'm not white-knighting the prices or anything, I disagree with them, I am however trying to see things from the devs point of view tho and bring that into a better perspective with the majority of us who can't afford housing prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakai View Post
    Sadly my rant can't be posted, not even on my blog on lodestone. So I put it all here on tumblr.. lol have a read if you want. It's just my two cent on it.

    http://arroh.tumblr.com/post/7024661...ompany-housing
    Read it, think it over some, or tear it apart piece by piece. I'm not white-knighting the prices or anything, I disagree with them, I am however trying to see things from the devs point of view tho and bring that into a better perspective with the majority of us who can't afford housing prices.
    But honestly the Dev's excuses for not having the server capacity to meet the needs of the playerbase, just means they should of postponed releasing Housing until they had the server capacity instead of having a minority of the population paying over-price just to bide time while everyone else gets bitter.

    It's a Lose-lose situation. For the FC's that CAN afford the housing they shouldn't spend it on Housing because it's over-priced for the lack of server infrastructure; and for the FC's that want to spend their gil on Housing they CAN'T.
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    Last edited by Yolteotl; 12-17-2013 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yolteotl View Post
    But honestly the Dev's excuses for not having the server capacity to meet the needs of the playerbase, just means they should of postponed releasing Housing until they had the server capacity instead of having a minority of the population paying over-price just to bide time while everyone else gets bitter.
    This, pretty much.
    It amuses me greatly that a game that's in closed BETA (Wildstar) allows player housing by simply reaching Lv 14 and doing a tiny/mini quest. And I am not talking a tiny piece of land housing here. Your own, massive plot; which allows you to plant a house, a park, activities, gardens, additional houses, etc.
    http://youtu.be/YQm7eOjyQSY

    If it's so stressful on the server, could have just made it a locally hosted thing (Runs on your side of the PC rather than the server).
    But we all know what's 'causing this decision. They already coded the whole game backwards (Everything runs server side; including the whole 0.3 sec positional check nonsense).
    Bottom line, housing should be accessible to all FC who put a small effort towards it (Such as ranking up, etc). Beyond that, the fee for having your own plot should be minor.

    Customizing your plot should be challenging or expensive or both. This gives the player base something to claim as their own and something to works towards to.
    You do not do it backwards; which is essentially what they've done here.
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    Last edited by Tashigi; 12-17-2013 at 11:16 AM.