Do bards deserve all the nerf ?

[PretzelBear]

Which translates into a minor "buff" since now you have those 200 TP to spare on abilities to do more damage

With Invigorate TP was never a issue to begin with unless you spammed AOEs, you can spam skills all day anyway.

[newbie]

I know this has been addressed already, but really do bards deserve all the nerf they got?

Sure bard was better in moving and dodging like in titan most likely, but in most stationary fights bards has the lowest dps in all, i would accept a little nerf on the dmg or cross skill over all but they made Rain of death useless as well which was one of the main support skill for the bards! why would i lower evasion for mobs that we dont miss already ?

am not against the nerf really but i think they took it too far

The nerfs make sense from the context of PvP balancing. So yes it's deserved.

[Reishi]

You Sir, are so wrong.....No experience in "end game" huh? RoD saved lives over a million times on Twintania Now it´ll be a Warriors job^^

well, never even tried Twintania once

[StrejdaTom]

The nerfs make sense from the context of PvP balancing. So yes it's deserved.

PvE and PvP skills aren't the same and they separated them in order to keep the game balanced so no, it isn't deserved.

[newbie]

PvE and PvP skills aren't the same and they separated them in order to keep the game balanced so no, it isn't deserved.

They're not the same but your PvE skills are available to be used. It's what you start off with then over time you can unlock PvP skills.

[AugustusSB]

I know this has been addressed already, but really do bards deserve all the nerf they got?

Sure bard was better in moving and dodging like in titan most likely, but in most stationary fights bards has the lowest dps in all, i would accept a little nerf on the dmg or cross skill over all but they made Rain of death useless as well which was one of the main support skill for the bards! why would i lower evasion for mobs that we dont miss already ?

am not against the nerf really but i think they took it too far

To put it bluntly, yes...

When a Bard in full darklight + hoplite earrings pulls in more dps than me in fully slotted 2 star hq + myth (BiS) chest + Gae Bolg+1 (BiS) + myth ring (BiS) the answer to your question is a full throttled YES.

[Phai]

To put it bluntly, yes...

When a Bard in full darklight + hoplite earrings pulls in more dps than me in fully slotted 2 star hq + myth (BiS) chest + Gae Bolg+1 (BiS) + myth ring (BiS) the answer to your question is a full throttled YES.

Not to be rude, but if that is the case, i think the Brd is playing good, and u need to work on ur rotation.

[Jigsaah]

I don't really consider this much of a nerf. I mean it only affects one move and when dmg really counts...like on Twintania...Brds will still be mid-high level DPS.

[BrandoH]

Not to be rude, but if that is the case, i think the Brd is playing good, and u need to work on ur rotation.

QFT. In T5, Bards are the lowest DPS pre-patch. Our Rain of Death helped fill in gaps where someone messed up a Virus rotation (which is also gone now, btw), and our burst helped greatly on the short conflags. Now we have much less utility and burst inside Turn 5 (the most important fight of the game until 2.2). We'll get by just fine, if for nothing less than Mage's Ballad for the WHM and Foe's Requiem for big snake. It's still a huge nerf that has really geared T5 groups in a situation where they're heavily considering cutting out BRD entirely, and will assuredly be testing BRDless teams.

[Songi]

To put it bluntly, yes...

When a Bard in full darklight + hoplite earrings pulls in more dps than me in fully slotted 2 star hq + myth (BiS) chest + Gae Bolg+1 (BiS) + myth ring (BiS) the answer to your question is a full throttled YES.

Nothing wrong with that. My bard was top dps in my coil group the entire 2.0 without a DRG present. I don't understand why Dragoons get so upset when they lose to bard dps when they have a debuff that specifically helps a bard's damage.

I hope these recent changes help melee dps because my back hurts from all the carrying I've been doing.