I foresee summoners getting kicked out of static groups.

[KerenRhys]

Just curious where you are getting that they get Blizzard? As far as I know the only cross class skills for SMN are: Raging Strikes, Thunder (No More), Surecast, Swiftcast, Hawk's Eye, and Quelling Strikes.

The 2.1 patch notes have nothing on Summoner other than them removing Thunder and PVP. So color me confused where Blizzard comes in?

From the patch notes:

Blizzard II Potency has been reduced from 100 to 50, and the bind effect has been increased from 4 to 8 seconds. Can now be used by all Disciples of Magic.
* Only thaumaturge and black mage gain the effect of Umbral Ice.

[Flip]

Was Thunder really that big of a deal to Summoners? I feel like people are overreacting about this one.

[Seraphita]

also no more class stacking as the more classes you stack the slower the limit break guage will fill up. so no, 2 blm will not make the situation better. just like the gif above. deal with it.

Since when does the rate of the limit break bar increasing matter?
Limit breaks are not even needed at all, they are a crutch for badly geared players and mistakes.
Sure it helps in certain situations, but in certain situations you can do more damage faster by bringing a certain setup of DPS than a limit break can even do throughout the entire fight.

[Klive]

Booting summoners from statics?

Why would my coil group boot the only dps that can battle raise, off tanks adds, and still do good dps? Really a clutch summoner save raids with quick battle raises and picking up adds with titan-egi. Heck my LS coil t4 strat uses titan-egi to collect soldiers and we clear it before enrage. So yeah, not being booted.

[Aeliott]

Was Thunder really that big of a deal to Summoners? I feel like people are overreacting about this one.

Well, a full duration Thunder offers 240 potency. Now the only alternative to use in place of it is to start Ruin / II which is 80. So every time you'd ordinarily use Thunder, you've lost 160 potency compared to what you had in 2.0.

[NeruMew]

Well, a full duration Thunder offers 240 potency. Now the only alternative to use in place of it is to start Ruin / II which is 80. So every time you'd ordinarily use Thunder, you've lost 160 potency compared to what you had in 2.0.

Well atleast you guys got an AoE filler..... lol (honestly they shouldnt have touched Blizzard II and Thunder)..

What's the potency on Miasma II (short range AoE dot, right?)?

[Draconix]

From the patch notes:

Blizzard II Potency has been reduced from 100 to 50, and the bind effect has been increased from 4 to 8 seconds. Can now be used by all Disciples of Magic.
* Only thaumaturge and black mage gain the effect of Umbral Ice.

Oh ok, I was looking for SMN notes, not elsewhere. Easy oversight. Thanks for the info!

[Beebles]

Thunder is not a big part of your damage, stop pretending it is.

[Jarlax]

I had friends in wow kick me from a raid static because I was 800dps too low...trust me it happens. People loose their minds over the prospect of Leet gear.

those weren't friends

[LemmingKingXXX]

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain.

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