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  1. #31
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    Zezlar's Avatar
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Lancer Lv 85
    What is there to buy outside houses?
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  2. #32
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    wirewitch's Avatar
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    Mynerva Mcguire
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Not sure how the base 20k gil per day farm is going to help those people on the higher priced servers.

    They're basically having to pay for the same feature as everyone else, at a massively inflated price, with the same tools and rewards as those on the lesser expensive servers.

    In short, we're being shafted.

    But how dare I be a disgruntled customer, how dare I want to be treated the same as every one else. How dare I expect my monthly sub to be used to play a game that should be treating us all as equals. Instead I am being penalised for playing when a majority of people abandoned ship. I have more gil, so there-fore I should feel grateful for being charged over 100% more than some servers?

    If this is how they work out the personal housing, I will be un-subscribing. The only reason I don't now is because I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and see how it pans out...
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  3. #33
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by wirewitch View Post
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    It's quite possible they're trying to level out the economy across all servers. Gil sinks and whatnot. Play the market if you're on a high priced server. You'd have an easier time acquiring 1mil gil with the options available to you, compared to someone on the less populated/priced server. Failing to take advantage of other options is why you'll likely never enjoy yourself.
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  4. #34
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    Nica Valca
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalw3 View Post
    You see, I'm doing the sensible thing and waiting for it to pan out.
    that's fine.

    Or, if that's not the case and it rally is unfair, we're very likely to see some kind of adjustment.
    IMO, by then the damage is already done. People don't have a limitless amount of goodwill. Much like CCP in the Incarna fiasco, by the time the company finally reversed direction, it was already too late - for once people really did vote with their wallet, and it marked the first time sub number really dropped for Eve Online, a drop that forced layoffs and took them almost two years to recover from.

    Now, I don't think it'll be nearly as bad, but "adjustments" later is not going to un-sour the taste in the mouth of players that got pissed off.
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  5. #35
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    zakalw3's Avatar
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    Wren Zakalwe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nica View Post
    that's fine.



    IMO, by then the damage is already done. People don't have a limitless amount of goodwill. Much like CCP in the Incarna fiasco, by the time the company finally reversed direction, it was already too late - for once people really did vote with their wallet, and it marked the first time sub number really dropped for Eve Online, a drop that forced layoffs and took them almost two years to recover from.

    Now, I don't think it'll be nearly as bad, but "adjustments" later is not going to un-sour the taste in the mouth of players that got pissed off.
    I can assure you the vast majority of people who are raging now will forgive and forget as soon as:

    A: They realise the content isn't as bad as they thought
    or
    B: Adjustments are made

    Hardly anyone is going to leave, and it's not going to damage the game in any significant way.
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  6. #36
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    Femke Fisker
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    FC housing should have been bought using FC points instead of gil.
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  7. #37
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    Giantbane's Avatar
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by wirewitch View Post
    Not sure how the base 20k gil per day farm is going to help those people on the higher priced servers.

    They're basically having to pay for the same feature as everyone else, at a massively inflated price, with the same tools and rewards as those on the lesser expensive servers.

    In short, we're being shafted.

    But how dare I be a disgruntled customer, how dare I want to be treated the same as every one else. How dare I expect my monthly sub to be used to play a game that should be treating us all as equals. Instead I am being penalised for playing when a majority of people abandoned ship. I have more gil, so there-fore I should feel grateful for being charged over 100% more than some servers?

    If this is how they work out the personal housing, I will be un-subscribing. The only reason I don't now is because I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and see how it pans out...
    The idea with legacy and more active servers is that there's more gil floating around the economy to begin with. So in addition to daily quests, you can raise more money by selling things to other players at higher prices than you normally could on other servers. Potions, food (now lasts through death!), crafting gear, materials, leveling gear (leveling via dungeons is a thing now), or whatever. So even if you don't have any money, your ability to make $$ should be higher on one of those servers than on one of the less active servers where there's less $$ floating around (well, at least until people start buying big houses...)

    I don't know if it should be AS much more expensive on the active/legacy servers as it is right now, but it should be more expensive.
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  8. #38
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    Edenholt's Avatar
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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    I don't think allowing players to get more gil will change anything. The prices will only go up, like it always happens in any mmorpg. Will be good to afford items and services from NPC's, with fixed values, but the players to players market won't really improve. It's like when people were buying gil from RMT, since it was well knowing we had many players with a lot of gil, the prices for HQ stuffs, specially end game gear, went really high in some servers, aiming those gold buyers.
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  9. #39
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    Scarletyoshi's Avatar
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    Carmine Cavatina
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Besides Housing there really is nothing to spend your gil on. I have to imagine most people who spend a significant amount of time on crafting jobs are looking to fund houses, so there goes any market for gatherables. Yes they added some new recipes - for furnishings, but since no one can afford the house they hardly have a need to buy stuff to put in it. There's also the fact that any group who can afford to buy a FC house is going to have at least one member with CRP or WVR leveled, so why would they buy from you?

    Then there's armor. With all the dungeons added, and increased way to gather tomestones, there's even less reason for someone to look to the marketwards for high level armor, a market that was pretty much shot before the update. I guess you can sell lowbie armor at 1% profit along with the dozens of other people all doing the same thing.

    So what's left? Medicines? Food? Enjoy watching those markets tumble as everyone tries to find any way they can to make enough gil to even look at these houses. Not even considering the fact that any FC with a need for those consumables will likely have a multiple members willing to make it all at cost.

    I second the good Doctor when I ask: Who exactly will be buying your stuff?
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