An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Ethalio]

Im still shocked and cant really understand what yoshi was thinking...
Housing always was mainly a feature for roleplayers and roleplayers usually arent the richest ones.

What about FCs with less than 100 members who dont want to gather in a toilet cabin?
Seriously, small houses are fine for personal housing, a single character but not for an FC.
How does it look if like 40 ppl meet in that small mog-house?

I agree with you, the prices for the land are horrendous. The medium-sized house though has 3 different floors and should fit the needs of the mid-sized FCs of ~20-35 players.

[Cubester]

For those who are interested in the actual size of each type of house:
The number of players the houses are aimed for are my own opinion and might not reflect your opinion fellow reader .

Thank you for that. I was looking for a size comparison.

The small size, which we can't even afford at the moment, is really very small. It looks more like a house for 3 - 5 people in my opinion.
Either way, the price right now for something that small is simply ridiculous, even at "only" 4 million.

[Aruseth]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

[Abriael]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

"Stop Complaining now that something is a challenge"

I'm afraid you have the meaning of "challenge" wrong. Grinding doesn't require any kind of ability and doesn't provide any kind of challenge. It's just a matter of sinking more and more time into the game. Personal ability and challenges have absolutely nothing to do with it.

It's a time sink. Not a challenge.

Beating twintania is a challenge. Gathering an inordinate amount of money is not.

[Naberrie]

Did people really think they were going to be able to buy houses on day 1? Why does everyone think they're going to get everything quickly and easily and complain when a game that charges you a monthly subscription adds a feature that can only be accomplished over time?

[Alegis]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

So you call repetitive and boring content (like gil farming) challenging?
Wow, working on an assembly line must be a dreamjob for you.

[Evenstar]

Very nice opening post, respect for that.

It just doesn't make sense at all what Yoshi is trying to do. He says that he wants the members of a FC to work together to get a house.

However, we can not do CT or Duty Roulette as an FC. At least make those doable with just your FC so you can REALLY work together and make money for the house. 50 people grinding like a zombie SOLO is not the same as working together Yoshi.

[Abriael]

Did people really think they were going to be able to buy houses on day 1? Why does everyone think they're going to get everything quickly and easily and complain when a game that charges you a monthly subscription adds a feature that can only be accomplished over time?

Because that's how it's (correctly) done with housing in basically every other game. Housing is a very strong engagement factor that builds over time with decorating the house and acquiring more and more rare furniture. Not having an entry level available to everyone is a big waste of an engagement factor, because the feature simply isn't accessible to everyone, and not even to the majority, and that's for a long time.

With big, highly publicized features:

Getting entry level immediately and then building on it over time <- Good design, high yield in player engagement
Having to wait a long time to get to the entry level or not accessing it at all <- Bad design, waste of player engagement opportunity

[Evenstar]

I think none would have had a problem if a small house was like 1 maybe 2 million maximum, while the medium and large houses were the same price as today.

Than people would have gone for the small house until they had gathered enough money. No FC is going to trow away millions for a small house now. You can not even bring over the furniture you put in your house if you decide to move to a bigger place.

[Naberrie]

Because that's how it's (correctly) done with housing in basically every other game. Housing is a very strong engagement factor that builds over time with decorating the house and acquiring more and more rare furniture. Not having an entry level available to everyone is a big waste of an engagement factor, because the feature simply isn't accessible to everyone, and not even to the majority, and that's for a long time.

Which I'm totally okay with. But that's just me. You don't leave mom and dad's house and get a mansion. You move out, go to college, get a dorm room, room with friends, get a studio, get signifigant other, get roommates, start a family, buy a house.

I don't know, I guess I just expected it to take a while, and don't understand why everyone else didn't.