So you say you are going to ban RMT

[Lafiele]

Also just to educate some of you, RMT isn't banned instantly because that will spook the sellers. Just like big police operations don't go catching small time crooks one at a time but catch them in one big fell swoop.

[Sove92]

Also just to educate some of you, RMT isn't banned instantly because that will spook the sellers. Just like big police operations don't go catching small time crooks one at a time but catch them in one big fell swoop.

Not to mention that they want to ban the buyers as well. Instabanning the sellers means they won't get the buyers.

[Raagnar]

Also just to educate some of you, RMT isn't banned instantly because that will spook the sellers. Just like big police operations don't go catching small time crooks one at a time but catch them in one big fell swoop.

Except this doesn't happen. They manage to do blanket bans of spammers and players who get hacked (hurting some legitimate players in the process). The real rmt and real players who cheat by botting are not getting punished at all. After 3 months of reporting the same people I give up, SE can do their own job. Whats worse, I see some of the main RMT characters from 1.0 launch hanging around limsa again, the gil holders/traders. SE CSI is doing a great job of tracking these "crooks" right.

Not to mention that they want to ban the buyers as well. Instabanning the sellers means they won't get the buyers.

Im guessing they don't even ban people for buying gil, suspension at most until repeated offenses.

[Teon]

Moogle Mail requires friends list acceptance, the mail itself is also tracked, as well as additions and removals to your friends list.

So, if you add someone to your friends list, receive a large sum of gil from them Via Moogle Mail, and then remove them, that's going to be flagged as suspicious activity.

Mail? You just meet physically the player giving you out what you bought, you give him a materia 2 for example or an item or just a "honest materia melding", he gives you the amount you bought. A smart customer don't buy 6 mil gils, risking. 2 millions per weeks for example, and you're set

Also, do you truly want me to explain the exact chain of RMT>real player giving money to the customer> safe transaction? I tought it was well know from years..
I give you a tip: FC banks works well

It's simple really. The RMT has to send you a tell in order to get you to meet them somewhere... RMT's and bots are probably well known to SE by this point. But a player to player exchange of 6 Million gil or more.... That's not being friendly, that's an RMT. Not handing one of my FC members 6 million gil just cause I can.

Curious. I have a friend, a girl, who bough 1.5 mil gil 3 weeks ago, she's free as a bird, rich. Something wrong here Tip again: meeting is organized with emails, outside of the game.

The difference between real life criminals and RMT is that it's a hell of a lot easier to actually catch and "punish" RMT. It's easier and yet they still mess around for weeks and/or months before doing anything IF they do anything at all. There is no legitimate reason why bots/hackers (which are primarily RMT) should not be INSTANTANEOUSLY banned. Teleporting all over the place and mining/gathering underground?... Yeah, you should be insta-banned.

I still dream the day RMT will be considered criminals, going straight to the jail for years, internet international laws. Amazing dream huh?

Maybe for now but it won't last. Besides, in the grand scheme of things, especially in light of housing, SE probably won't investigate the smaller amounts, and target large amounts (3M+ probably) for the time being. I've known very few people who bought gil and got away with it for long. Maybe she got lucky

Ye, maybe. A guy from the FC where she moved now ( she transferred on a new server) suggested that website to her, most of them from that FC bough million gils for housing, , now they are waiting 2.1, and erm, that house will not be seized hehe

[Sub-Xero]

Also just to educate some of you, RMT isn't banned instantly because that will spook the sellers. Just like big police operations don't go catching small time crooks one at a time but catch them in one big fell swoop.

The difference between real life criminals and RMT is that it's a hell of a lot easier to actually catch and "punish" RMT. It's easier and yet they still mess around for weeks and/or months before doing anything IF they do anything at all. There is no legitimate reason why bots/hackers (which are primarily RMT) should not be INSTANTANEOUSLY banned. Teleporting all over the place and mining/gathering underground?... Yeah, you should be insta-banned.

[Rune_Crystalblade]

Mail? You just meet physically the player giving you out what you bought. A smart customer don't buy 6 mil gils, risking. 2 millions per weeks for example, and you're set

Also, do you truly want me to explain the exact chain of RMT>real player giving money to the customer> safe transaction? I tought it was well know from years..
I give you a tip: FC banks works well




Curious. I have a friend, a girl, who bough 1.5 mil gil 3 weeks ago, she's free as a bird, rich. Something wrong here

Maybe for now but it won't last. Besides, in the grand scheme of things, especially in light of housing, SE probably won't investigate the smaller amounts, and target large amounts (3M+ probably) for the time being. I've known very few people who bought gil and got away with it for long. Maybe she got lucky

[Doo]

Also just to educate some of you, RMT isn't banned instantly because that will spook the sellers. Just like big police operations don't go catching small time crooks one at a time but catch them in one big fell swoop.

The big swoop doesn't seem effective at all and by the time they finally get to banning the botters, they already done their dmg to the economy and the cycle repeats.

[Raagnar]

Curious. I have a friend, a girl, who bough 1.5 mil gil 3 weeks ago, she's free as a bird, rich. Something wrong here Tip again: meeting is organized with emails, outside of the game.

I have a rl friend who bought gil also. Of course im still friends with him out of game. But I removed him from my FC and wont play with him.. because I don't play with cheaters. Its not even about taking the game too serious, its about not being a hypocrite and telling the fc you will be kicked for buying gil and letting a cheater stay because I know him out of game.

You friend, who is a girl, should be shunned in game lol.

[Teon]

I have a rl friend who bought gil also. Of course im still friends with him out of game. But I removed him from my FC and wont play with him.. because I don't play with cheaters. Its not even about taking the game too serious, its about not being a hypocrite and telling the fc you will be kicked for buying gil and letting a cheater stay because I know him out of game.

You friend, who is a girl, should be shunned in game lol.

Haha. Good for her she moved out, i have the same attitude of yours, dealing with cheaters/exploiters

[LordSideKicks]

Looking at the amount of botters in my server who are reported and not banned I won't be amazed at how RMT are not banned. So I am quite sure the housing prices are set according to botters and rmt. (Sorry SE)