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  1. #21
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/4723c417204/

    Looks to be quite a nice replacement for the Artemis and I'll even dare to say the stats negate the 1 WD increase on the Allagan. I'm definitely going for this before anything else when servers come back up.
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  2. #22
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    Death Arrow
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/4723c417204/

    Looks to be quite a nice replacement for the Artemis and I'll even dare to say the stats negate the 1 WD increase on the Allagan. I'm definitely going for this before anything else when servers come back up.
    O-o How you get that bow???? NEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!
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  3. #23
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    L3xus89's Avatar
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    Aldorian Liviagro
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 50
    wow sweet do you have any info about how, where and where the bow can be farmed?
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  4. #24
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    The only 90 weapon being added comes from the Extreme primal.
    So, you get one guess.

    Don't forget you get this by beating all the extreme primals, so it's probably not a drop. Making it easier to get.
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  5. #25
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    Aldorian Liviagro
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    aah oke well im not close to beating extreme primals. Just got my Garuda spine i70 and first piece of darklight gear.
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  6. #26
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    I see the PvE justifications for the nerf to the current RoD, it was simply too good of a debuff and further added to the stacking of the bard class. (for example being able to have one bard on each of the turn 1 bosses etc) Shadowbind I can say that is blatantly a pvp change but was relatively "tame" in pve anyways cuz of the diminishing returns. The cross-class nerfs imo, and based a bit off what i gathered from other comments, is that the "full stacking" (dex pot and the whole chabang together) lead to some ridiculously good synergy with barrage, dots, flaming arrow etc. (place were i can say i see this in "action" the most is prolly things like burning down the dreadnaughts in turn 4) which did lead to some "carry". Very mild carry but carry nonetheless, just like its gonna be ultimately a very minor nerf in these same situations.

    Some of the new gear does seem to be light on accuracy so maybe RoD is the way it is as a "buffer" for the new gear, and it will lead to situations were you may want to have a full acc set and a heavy damage set. I will admit that as it stand now and as you read it on the patch notes it does leave a "WTF IS THIS!" sensation upon you though, specially since we are coming from a place were we "require" accuracy caps being hit for end game.

    Guess i should also note that the warrior getting the 10% debuff obviously played a role in this :P I agree with the philosophy of trying to make all classes "useful" in an 8 man setup, such as the LB nerfs and this change, much the same way i am liking the pvp setup being a 4 man party setup. I will agree that we have to wait and see the changes in action though, as what the development "expects" and what the community ultimately does are rarely the same thing.
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    Last edited by Gumbercules; 12-16-2013 at 08:53 PM.

  7. #27
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    Hybris-Maenad's Avatar
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    Hybris Maenad
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    I actually used Shadow Bind a lot when helping my lower-level FC mates with dungeons.

    I'm more pissed about this than ring of death.
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  8. #28
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Let's be clear. We were told that a bard skill will be moved to another class cause bards bring too much.
    I'm not talking about if you agree with the above premise.

    Here we have RoD, a BARD skill.
    The effect is changed to something notably less valuable.
    Then we have
    Storm's Path
    The combo bonus now also reduces damage dealt by enemies by 10%.TP cost has been reduced from 90 to 60.
    As many others have pointed out. The RoD effect is moved to Warrior.
    Calling it a nerf is half right. It is a nerf to the skill but the impression is simply that it is an isolated reduction.
    It is a movement of utility from one class to another. Please discuss it as such.

    It's a nerf to bard in an isolated sense.
    But now your raid can potentially keep up that buff and you will lose no damage/TP (if you have a warrior).
    It nerf to 'reasons to bring a bard' but a boost to your raid in general and to your personal dps(potentially).

    Please treat this issue in a more nuanced manner than a normal nerf.

    Edit:
    It is unfortunate that Storm's path is single target, while RoD is AoE.
    I guess this is balanced by the fact that Storm's path is part of a combo and therefore you don't need to go out of your way and lose massive TP to apply.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 12-16-2013 at 09:13 PM.

  9. #29
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    Dante Orpheus
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 50
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/4723c417204/

    Looks to be quite a nice replacement for the Artemis and I'll even dare to say the stats negate the 1 WD increase on the Allagan. I'm definitely going for this before anything else when servers come back up.
    Don't really see any upgrade because you will definitly lose your accuracy cap for coil with this bow. Artemis Bow gives +37 accuracy so consider again if this bow really is better
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  10. #30
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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 44
    ummmm, RoD was a nice benefit for lower geared tanks/whm in SR, but mana song and foe is the reason we are still gonna be taken... Bring a blm and flare away... (Blizz 3 > Fire 3 > Flare repeat (mana song gives em back enough for blizz)
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