Brd changes on 2.1

**Rushou** · 12-17-2013 01:49 AM

I don't see how Hawk's Eye is a useless buff.

Hawk's Eye - The effect has been changed to increase DEX by 15% and guarantee that all attacks land.

**Hekla** · 12-17-2013 01:53 AM

lol is that Rushou from sylph?

**Bardo** · 12-17-2013 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by Allyrion

Edit: It is unfortunate that Storm's path is single target, while RoD is AoE.
I guess this is balanced by the fact that Storm's path is part of a combo and therefore you don't need to go out of your way and lose massive TP to apply.

However it's not part of the hate combo.
So while you don't have to "throw away" TP to use it, you DO have to throw away enmity.
And since it's part of a combo, it's no longer feasible to use it in certain situations like Twintania's 2h where it was VERY useful before.

They definitely had to remove that effect from Bard since they gave it to War, but what makes it a nerf to Bard is what they replaced it with.
The evasion down is 100% useless which means we lost a big portion of our support toolbox on top of a damage nerf even though we were already 20% behind at endgame.

Originally Posted by Leraje

Don't really see any upgrade because you will definitly lose your accuracy cap for coil with this bow. Artemis Bow gives +37 accuracy so consider again if this bow really is better

You don't have to stick with one weapon for everything though.
It will be difficult to hit the accuracy cap with this bow for Turn5, but 99% of the game isn't Turn5.
You could use this bow any time the cap is lower and increase your dmg by quite a large amount.

**NeonC** · 12-17-2013 03:22 AM

Another interesting change I noticed is the Bow of Crags is better than Artemis bow. Since I avoided +1'ing the Artemis bow I might just swap to Crags till I can get the Extreme Primal bow. Plus the earth res will be nice vs ex Titan.

**Rushou** · 12-17-2013 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Hekla

lol is that Rushou from sylph?

That's the one :P

These patch notes at least on the English side don't seem to be "right" all the way. JP patch notes showing Drg getting a potency increase to Full Thrust as well that's not included on the patch notes. Some things are missing and some could be translation issues.

**Viridiana** · 12-17-2013 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Leraje

Don't really see any upgrade because you will definitly lose your accuracy cap for coil with this bow. Artemis Bow gives +37 accuracy so consider again if this bow really is better

Even ignoring the rest of the new gear we're getting that probably has accuracy on it, how many people are currently wearing the +34 Accuracy Allagan pants?

**LukewarmSkywater** · 12-17-2013 09:48 AM

Shadowbind didn't need a nerf for pvp. It has diminishing returns and doesn't silence casters.
The new PvP ability Purify(all classes, negative effect purge, likely the first skill taken by anyone who will pvp.), and Fetter Ward (meh not a huge deal)
Also this:

The following battle mechanics have been changed specifically for PvP:
Damage dealt by bows will vary depending on distance from the target.

I just started the game, and have very limited experience here, but these changes don't add up to me.
I could be wrong, but it sounds like bards will have a heck of a time keeping range in PvP.
I understand Instant cast everything isn't hard to play, but I'll be interested to see how this pans out.

**GoldDragon** · 12-17-2013 12:01 PM

they probably did it so there is less overlap for shared class abilities for crystal tower. also the difference in evasion compared to damage reduction is miniscule. the damage is the same and missing less will more than likely increase dps in the long run.

**Fryn** · 12-18-2013 08:22 PM

I'll echo those that said before the biggest issue with the changes was the loss of RoD. To me it was the single real support we had that always had some benefit. When you need mana song you need it and you pay the extra reduction in damage...
Speaking of which SE could remove the penalty to damage on ballad and paeon now =p

As for other dps classes not having support...

BLM = Sleep / Bind / Heavy
Drg = Pierce debuff / Slow
SMN = Raise / Virus
Monk = Debuff

But hey they are all pure DPS right with no support at all. As the only DPS / Support class I would be happy to take those skills off their hands =)

I just want a song that I actually want to play... How about a haste song, a defensive stat song, a str/dex song, an int/piety song. There are lots of options that would actually make a bard more of a bard than a mana battery every once and a while with our current line up.

**Kayko** · 12-18-2013 11:19 PM

As for the RoD issue... They could have just as easily changed the effects duration to perhaps 10-15 second instead of just removing it all together at this point. Even as a FREE proc, it is not worth the CD to use on any mob that is if any difficulty. RoD is now an entirely useless ability outside of trash mobs or random AoE farming. BRD's almost feel like the WoW Paladin of old, nothing but a buff bot. I feel almost like I should stack mana and stand at the mobs ball sack and sing at this point.

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