Twintania + Death Sentance (War)

[Paikis]

And then if for whatever reason you don't get topped off for the next DS, you just die because you engineered a failure on the previous DS and now don't have your death-save available.

[Kitru]

And then if for whatever reason you don't get topped off for the next DS, you just die because you engineered a failure on the previous DS and now don't have your death-save available.

Because it's not like there are *ever* strats that are built around tanks using their uber-CD in situations that aren't emergencies (*cough*t4doubledread*cough*).

*You* can reserve your CDs so that you only use them in emergency situations, but some people prefer to actually use their CDs proactively so that they actually see use and affect mean performance rather than just outliers. Holmgang is up as often as PLD's Sentinel so I'm not entirely sure why you think it's risky for a WAR to use Holmgang but not for a PLD to use Sentinel since the CD is exactly the same. Using Hallowed Ground actually creates a more extreme example of problem you're describing because Holmgang only has a 3 min CD while Hallowed Ground has a 7 minute CD (which means that Hallowed Ground has a *way* bigger opportunity cost).

[Paikis]

Because it's not like there are *ever* strats that are built around tanks using their uber-CD in situations that aren't emergencies (*cough*t4doubledread*cough*).

*You* can reserve your CDs so that you only use them in emergency situations, but some people prefer to actually use their CDs proactively so that they actually see use and affect mean performance rather than just outliers. Holmgang is up as often as PLD's Sentinel so I'm not entirely sure why you think it's risky for a WAR to use Holmgang but not for a PLD to use Sentinel since the CD is exactly the same. Using Hallowed Ground actually creates a more extreme example of problem you're describing because Holmgang only has a 3 min CD while Hallowed Ground has a 7 minute CD (which means that Hallowed Ground has a *way* bigger opportunity cost).

I'm not saying don't use it. I'm saying don't engineer a situation where you must use it.

Holmgang is not analogous to Sentinel anyway. The only thing they share is a cooldown timer. As a PLD, you're not reaching for Sentinel when you're at 7hp with a Death Sentence coming in.

[Kitru]

I'm not saying don't use it. I'm saying don't engineer a situation where you must use it.

Eh, I think it's up to your group whether it's a good idea or not. If you engineer a situation where you *plan* on using it for maximum mitigation potential with your healers expecting it, it can be an amazing mitigation tool rather than just an emergency "I don't wanna die!" button (which presents problems to me given that it's still going to have an animation time), which is what I was describing. I, personally, see ToB as more of an emergency button than Holmgang, given that it doesn't reduce damage taken in any way, shape, or form whereas Holmgang does.