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  1. #61
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    editing in a response ... please wait for the edit beep (most stupid forums ever ...... ) ..... beep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    How so?, ok look we can dig deeper-

    On my server (non-legacy) a first class plot costs 8 million gil-
    You have a FC with 8 people, thats 1 million each.
    You have a FC with 16 people, thats 500k each
    You have a FC with 24 people, thats 250k each

    So if you have a medium sized FC with 24 active people, it will cost you 250k for a small First Class plot of land. Even less if you wait for the price drop.

    How isnt this reasonable pricing?.
    Small housing on starter servers with a small free company is probably closest to reasonable ... but even then is a bit much... you were still just given farming gil as 'content' >.> .... but even on those servers the medium and large housing pretty much means that you will not have months of constant farming ...

    we all know the content they will release will be irrelevant after a couple of weeks to those that actually still log in rather ... they just gave those people a reason to stand around and farm/craft rather than just log out (which most do). ... and it is a pretty crappy way to get people to log in ... and do something most would rather not do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    Not to mention they wrote .14% as 14%. SE can't into basic math and this is getting really embarrassing.
    my friend and i actually went through each reduction after ever 6 hours to try and replicate the totals they came up with in the example given ... we couldn't ... we could get close assuming .14% (which is equal to .0014 btw) ... but even with rounding we couldn't get close enough to the numbers they gave.

    I'm guessing on top of all the other housing nonsense there is some additional stuff going on with the reductions. Also not sure why they cap at going to half the cost ... if no one wants to buy them at half the cost ... why not just let them continue to fall until they are finally at reasonable prices ?_?
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vherkin View Post
    -Because not everyone is on your server
    -because they said in the live letter that small house was design with 4-5 man cl in mind. 20 is just ridiculous
    -Because they said it would be affordable, even rift a free to play have a more affordable housing than this. Everyone and their mother can get into it.
    I dont know what other servers people are on so im making an example from my own server.

    How many FCs have just 5 people in them? lets be real and go with the bare minimum of 8

    A small fifth class plot costs 3.2 million (discounted) on my server split that between 8 people and you have a very affordable house.
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  3. #63
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    Kinda killed my interest in the patch... I am still looking forward to CT somewhat... but I was really looking to playing with our FC house to carry me through the long period of waiting until 2.2.

    This really gives me food for thought on just cancelling until 2.2 and checking in again at that point. Our FC is RL friends, and we help each other with material goods and such, but we don't hoard gil, because there was really no point. We are already getting bored with the game... farming gil is not something we are interested in at this point or something that will get us engaged with the game again.

    They really need chocobo raising, farming/gardening... or something else long term for people like us to do. We don't want to fight the RMT junk in the market... we like doing, not playing in markets. Most of us have market related real jobs, and we don't want to deal with it in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    How so?, ok look we can dig deeper-

    On my server (non-legacy) a first class plot costs 8 million gil-
    You have a FC with 8 people, thats 1 million each.
    You have a FC with 16 people, thats 500k each
    You have a FC with 24 people, thats 250k each

    How isnt this reasonable pricing?.
    If you want a large house (125mil on "cheaper" servers):

    You have a FC with 8 active people who are willing to donate, thats 15,625,000 Gil each.
    You have a FC with 16 active people who are willing to donate, thats 7,812,500 Gil each.
    You have a FC with 24 active people who are willing to donate, thats 5,283,333 Gil each.
    You have a FC with 50 active people who are willing to donate, thats 2,500,000 Gil each.

    For something aimed as being a leisure and cosmetic item it's very unreasonable pricing.

    The prices for small are vaguely reasonable, middle sized are way over priced and large are insane.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    If you want a large house (125mil on "cheaper" servers):

    You have a FC with 8 active people who are willing to donate, thats 15,625,000 Gil each.
    You have a FC with 24 active people who are willing to donate, thats 5,283,333 Gil each.
    You have a FC with 50 active people who are willing to donate, thats 2,500,000 Gil each.

    The prices for small are vaguely reasonable, middle sized are way over priced and large are insane.
    67mil if my math is right, thats at discounted price which people will be aiming for, half the numbers you're posting.

    Besides large houses should be borderline impossible to get for a small FC, they should be a grind and an achievement. Otherwise whats the point in having small FC houses?.

    On top of that how long have we been playing the game?, how much money have we made?, a year from now how much money will you have?. 67mil for a large first class house isnt outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    67mil if my math is right, thats at discounted price which people will be aiming for, half the numbers you're posting.

    Besides large houses should be borderline impossible to get for a small FC, they should be a grind and an achievement. Otherwise whats the point in having small FC houses?.

    On top of that how long have we been playing the game?, how much money have we made?, a year from now how much money will you have?. 67mil for a large first class house isnt outrageous.
    It appears prices will drop 0.14% every 6 hours, though it's not clear.

    They say houses will not drop below 50%, but it may not get down to 50% even, this is unclear.

    What we do know is they will start at 125mil, so this is the value I'll use when doing the math.
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    It is quiet obvious this is a gil sink and nothing more the fact that price vary by server but quality does not is just insult added to injury, so because someone clicked A instead of B 5 months ago before this existed it costs be 2x more but does not contain 2x the value.
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  8. #68
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Thank you for making more duplicate topics complaining about how hardcore the housing feature is.

    FFXIV needed more hardcore factors, and the more you advertise the non-casual aspects of the game, the larger our playerbase will become.

    Again, thank you. Seriously. Keep it up.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    It appears prices will drop 0.14% every 6 hours, though it's not clear.

    They say houses will not drop below 50%, but it may not get down to 50% even, this is unclear.

    What we do know is they will start at 125mil, so this is the value I'll use when doing the math.
    "Example:
    Small
    - Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
    - 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
    - 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
    - 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
    - 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
    * The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price."
    I think that's clear enough to be fair.
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  10. #70
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    SE cut legacy players Gils of 90% and now they try to tell us we are super rich and can pay 325M for a house. its BS
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