Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
Exactly. The discussion should be are Extreme mode weapons better than Relic.
Academic, probably. I bet you nobody but ilvl90 statics will have a prayer of clearing those. Look at requirements: average ilvl of 70. Titan will require a mere average of 57, and a group full of players meeting only the requirement is likely to fail. I expect the bare-minimum for Ifrit Extreme to be full ilvl90 equipment with ilvl70 melded accessories. Maybe relic+1 for second jobs will be replaced by primal weapons, but you'd have to luck into them as drops from your static, and if you're not that hardcore, then you can shove it.