Whm receives multiple nerfs , Sch gets buffed

[CalvatE]

I don't mind the Holy nerf, I felt it was necessary.

Medica II I'm a little on the shelf about. Remember Medica is 300 potency and Medica II is 200 potency for its initial cast, but as for its regen... Well, just means 2x the amount of time to regenerate, which, means longer time... more room for error so DPS will have to step up their game to avoid things, or I have to heal them to full if they're slacking a bit.
It's an alright change, but Medica II being used for Fireballs on Twintania was something pretty good, but now I'm not so sure... guess I'll have to start using Cure III, perhaps.
But, someone had mentioned that Medica II is now worse than Eos' AoE regeneration (100 potency without Rouse), I'm really not sure how to think about it. Seems like I'll need to test it before I can see if it's crap or not.


Though I am disappointed that Lustrate gets a buff. Lustrate was always better than Benediction because you rarely, if ever, use Benediction to heal 100% entirely. More like 80%+. With Lustrate, every 20% counted since you were more inclined to use it since it doesn't have such a large cooldown; Lustrate can heal 125% over 5 minutes where as Benediction is 100% over 5 minutes... and no one benefits from the full 100%!

Cure III... I guess it's better now. The mana it consumes isn't really anything better unless you need to heal two people I guess but it always was a very situational skill.

I feel like WHM changes were a bit of everything, buff and nerf, but SCH didn't lose a thing (but gained) when they were already in demand as it was.

[AishaK]

medica 2 nerf is gonna mess with conflags/fireballs and virus immunity is nasty too. the new medica 2 is just gonna be 60% overhealing, no one is gonna be low long enough for it to do real work... too bad, it was nice on high damage phases. 75% of a tanks hp on a 1 minute cooldown is pretty silly though.

This reeks of trying to force us to use the "new" cure 3, all we wanted was a range boost on it, a 15% proc for crits was one thing, but relying on a proc to make a situational aoe heal efficient is just insane...

[Sylari]

Could be that just Square is moving slowly. A lot of times because of the length of a development cycle means that the dev team is a few weeks behind the trends and it was only a month or two ago that this forum was (bizarrely) insisting that Scholars were basically useless shield bots and double white mage was almost (or just as) good as sch/whm was in 8 man content.

[sharazisspecial]

MATH

You are one funny guy.

[Shyluv]

So far I'm okay with the idea of all of this. Will see how it actually plays out, though.

[CalvatE]

medica 2 nerf is gonna mess with conflags/fireballs and virus immunity is nasty too. the new medica 2 is just gonna be 60% overhealing, no one is gonna be low long enough for it to do real work... too bad, it was nice on high damage phases. 75% of a tanks hp on a 1 minute cooldown is pretty silly though.

This reaks of trying to force us to use the "new" cure 3, all we wanted was a range boost on it, a 15% proc for crits was one thing, but relying on a proc to make a situational aoe heal efficient is just insane...

I feel the same way with what you said regarding Medica II. It healed pretty well and by the 10 second area, people are healed. Now it'll take double the time! and as an AoE heal... The fairy does more...!! I could understand if we were beginning to be shifted to an raid healer class but even the fairy out heals us in terms of AoE regen.

[Nullie]

None of these changes help anything for me. They are either just as good as they were before OR just as stupid as they were before. I'm not using cure 3 and I'm not going to be spamming cure 2 to get a chance for a 50% mp reduction on cure 3.

I play both classes and I've always enjoyed whitemage the most. I think it is time to move to scholar until we see some new skills.

[Tenebrisme]

hmm I wont be holying a much anymore. On the bright side I wont have to see its horrid spell animation quite as much. Also we lost Thunder... lol

[Flip]

I hope they revert the Lustrate change or do something with Benediction to even out the clutch healing side of both the jobs. Whm are still going to be needed to those of you wanting to hop to the other side, I still don't see Sch/Sch as being more viable compared to the current state of their synergy. I need my Whm brothers and sisters.

[Melithea]

What the hell are you smoking to think a Holy nerf means Scholars are better? 5% on a Lustrate is nowhere near the buff you just got on the Medica II and Cure III. Quit whining. WHM will still be the overall power healer.

I don't smoke, thanks. But fine, ONCE MORE FROM THE TOP.

My primary objection to the Holy power nerf is that the MP cost is (presumably) left the same. It's still a "strong" spell... that's now even less useful and more of liability to the one caster job that actually has to manage MP. This is one of the two things we actually had over Scholars and it's barely useful outside FATE grinding or WP speed runs even in its current form.

Medica II did not get buffed. The healing amount is exactly the same, except that now instead of being both a hate magnet and a quick answer to massive aoe damage, it's now a slow bake spell for topping off people who aren't in danger. Basically, it no longer serves the function that actually separated it from Succor. There goes the other reason to have a WHM rather than SCH.

Cure III's "buff" places the range 1 entire whopping yalm larger than the range Bane has right now. You know, the range that everyone complains is utter crap and doesn't reliably hit a tight group of enemies crowded around a tank. And it's still a huge MP hog, unless we can somehow trigger a 15% proc (which costs more MP) in anticipation of needing it, every time. And then you have to organize an entire group of people to do something impractical during any fight that would require it. Diagnosis: Still worse than Medica.

Meanwhile pets just became even more awesome and SCH healing gets a boost.

If the two classes were anywhere close before, SCH is now the better healer by miles. We couldn't even get an improvement to Shroud? Seriously? Not even something so that it actually scales appropriately? People are crowing about how Scholars are the "real" healers now, or saying that White Mages are only there for Proshell. As an avid WHM lover and defender I really can't argue with them.