An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

One 0 is too much.

Earlier i said that people wants everything easy and cheap, and im right, people ranting over the prices of small houses is that kind of people, but after the prices revelead, i gotta say, this is pricing, for medium and large houses is stupid.

It isn`t even properly scalated, prices are messed up, starting price for small houses is just fine, what you expect from a MMO with long terms and comunity work oriented progression, then you have medium houses which will be by the way the less buyed costing 3 times more than the first, have a bit more space for things and being barely larger, which will make no one even look at them, and then we have the large houses, which, with this ridiculous prices, will be buyed by what... 2% of the population of each server?

Small houses are fine.
Medium houses need to be a lot more cheaper.
Large houses demand the guy who planned its prices to do the harakiri.

[Abriael]

Earlier i said that people wants everything easy and cheap, and im right

Funny to see someone telling himself that he's right

Small houses are fine.
Medium houses need to be a lot more cheaper.
Large houses demand the guy who planned its prices to do the harakiri.

The opposite. Large houses are a luxury, so it's a lot more acceptable for them to be overpriced and very rare. On the other hand smaller houses need to be an entry level in order for a large and anticipated feature to engage more players.

A feature that required a large amount of development work that engages only a minority of the playerbase means a big waste in development resources, that aren't turned in player engagement.

[Magnaman]

I got to admit that the pricing almost killed me. Been a casual player with my small free company those prices means that we will not be able to get a FC house.

Over time, I expect the price will go down. I read a lot of post in this thread and agree with a variety of people.

I don't think the pricing should be low enough that the majority of the players would already have enough Gil to purchase on the first day. It is fun to grind a little bit in order to get was we want, but making it too hard to get is not better. There is a fine line here.

Instead of putting the price so high, why not make the purchase of the land fun. Put the land cheaper, put an upkeep fee. Also add some quest lines that would make you gather a building license, get some material for the building of the house etc.

That been said my FC won't get housing, but will still have a lot of fun. I will wait for the personal housing, if ever it comes. My favorites MMO was FFXI, now FFXIV, hoping for the best.

[HEC]

I don't think the pricing should be low enough that the majority of the players would already have enough Gil to purchase on the first day.

Unfortunatelly - the "first day" availability argument being thrown around this thread a lot is completely FALSE. We all knew about FC housing for MONTHS, it was the main selling / promoting point of the 2.1 and many players (me including) worked really REALLY hard in past several months to save every available gill towards FC housing just to be slapped in the face by the patch notes and this nonsense pricing realizing that several millions they've put asside will not buy them even the doorknob, server disparity and finally the MOST STUPID EXCUSE from Yoshi and devs blaming it all on RMT!

lol. I'm not sure if anyone has done this math, but based on the dev response of ~20,000gil/day average per person

I've actually did a few pages back in this thread - in my very simplified calculation the small FC with 20 members working 7 days a week will require 500 days to save for large ("crafting") house plot - PATHETIC!

Frankly - I'm pretty disgusted how all the situation around FC Housing pricing was really badly handled from the very beggining - it was obvious from the very start that something bad is being cooked as Yoshi was in every single Live letter avoiding the pricing as a plague - I've smelt the bad sushi since last two live letters as the release of the patch 2.1 was approaching and both exact prices as well as FC (level) requirements were still kept secret / "clouded" by generic and specifics avoiding terms like "company level required for housing" and "(small??) FC house can be afforded by 3 average players" CRAP! Really? How exactly have you "calculated" that average? The same way the "average" sallary is calculated in some countries / companies??

[Bigmommabird]

I am saddened by the pricing decision because my FC was looking forward to housing and the fun it would provide, but the pricing puts it very far out of our reach. It's just not appealing to go through the weeks of dreary work that would be required to save enough to buy even the smallest property. (After two months of frequent play, I only have 250,000g.) At the moment, most of the other members of the FC I'm in are so disappointed that they're unlikely to continue playing FFXIV. The FC leader has already cancelled his subscription.

I am troubled by the attitude this pricing decision reflects. It seems that this will be a game only for the gil-grinding hard-core elites, and not for the majority of players who simply want a fun, challenging, rewarding game. If there aren't changes that help build community and encourage having fun, I'll be leaving also. It's a shame, because this has the potential to be a marvelous game.

[Daniolaut]

It has been over a full month since the release of Housing.

Currently each ward in each city is occupied by a staggering number of 1-7 houses.

First ward of the Limsa housing development is occupied by a full THREE houses by the same Free Company (One large, two medium.) Many of you might be wondering.. that isnt even possible, ah but it is.

"LGCY" FC requires its players to have alternate characters, with these characters they have formed subsidiary FC's in which they use these FC's to buy additional plots.

Clearly the gil in which Yoshida is using to balance the housing is massively hoarded by a small number of players on legacy servers.

AKA, RMT, or people who use exploits/cheats or are simply greedy.

My FC sits at about 60+ active members and our FC bank isnt even capable of buying a medium house, and with that many active players it is absurd to think we should buy a small or even medium house.

Simply re stated:


Housing is drastically over priced, the economy is horribly imbalanced, and there is nearly no way to obtain gil via NPC (aka generate new gil.)

Please look into this issue more closely.

Thank you.

[Felis]

Simply re stated:


Housing is drastically over priced, the economy is horribly imbalanced, and there is nearly no way to obtain gil via NPC (aka generate new gil.)

Please look into this issue more closely.

Thank you.

Not if you do content (like full party treasure hunting (with everyone bringing at least 1 map) and df roulette). It is possible to generate over 10k gil daily only with doing content that give you gil.

[Aruseth]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

[Abriael]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

"Stop Complaining now that something is a challenge"

I'm afraid you have the meaning of "challenge" wrong. Grinding doesn't require any kind of ability and doesn't provide any kind of challenge. It's just a matter of sinking more and more time into the game. Personal ability and challenges have absolutely nothing to do with it.

It's a time sink. Not a challenge.

Beating twintania is a challenge. Gathering an inordinate amount of money is not.

[Alegis]

Wrong housing for FC is a collaborative effort. I have seen a FC with 512 members mine as 60 others ive seen have 300 200 100 they are all over. this isn't a one week endeavor all the whiners need to stop being lazy and earn something for a change don't expect a handout with everything that comes out. the mentality of the I want it now in this generation is sad. earn something for once. you want it now, play for a week then complain there Is nothing to do or no reason for gil. well I guess there is a reason for it now huh?

So you call repetitive and boring content (like gil farming) challenging?
Wow, working on an assembly line must be a dreamjob for you.