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    If that's the case, they need to reword that answer. For someone who wasn't watching the live stream and relying on the Q&A, it's very misleading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by am0n View Post
    If that's the case, they need to reword that answer. For someone who wasn't watching the live stream and relying on the Q&A, it's very misleading.
    No they don't..it was pretty clear.:

    A29: The weapons will only have their item level increase by five and the stats will not be changed. We will, however, be making adjustments to some stats on the armor that can be obtain in the Binding Coil of Bahamut.
    How..is that unclear in any fashion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    No they don't..it was pretty clear.:



    How..is that unclear in any fashion?
    Because it's unclear?

    "The weapons will only have their item level increase by five and the stats will not be changed".

    Going only by that information regarding the weapons, it tells us that the weapon's stats (DMG/AA/STR/INT/DEX/etc.) all remain the same, as in +10 will still be +10 despite the weapon having a higher item level since no mention was made about increasing the parameters of the stat. Should it be infered that the parameters will change due to the ilvl increase? It should but more clarity was needed in the answer regarding weapons so as to not have people assume. The bit about armor changes on the other hand was fine however part of the confusion has to deal with nomenclature and people not being on the same page with the reps as far was what stats refers to specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    Because it's unclear?

    "The weapons will only have their item level increase by five and the stats will not be changed".

    Going only by that information regarding the weapons, it tells us that the weapon's stats (DMG/AA/STR/INT/DEX/etc.) all remain the same, as in +10 will still be +10 despite the weapon having a higher item level since no mention was made about increasing the parameters of the stat. Should it be infered that the parameters will change due to the ilvl increase? It should but more clarity was needed in the answer regarding weapons so as to not have people assume. The bit about armor changes on the other hand was fine however part of the confusion has to deal with nomenclature and people not being on the same page with the reps as far was what stats refers to specifically.
    It's because they used the word "change". You now think ANYTHING is a change(which is true technically), except that change means to change it to something else. Not more of the SAME. People see that and immediately jump on the "that makes no sense" wagon. Instead of thinking to themselves that BECAUSE it makes no sense, they are interpreting wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's because they used the word "change". You now think ANYTHING is a change(which is true technically), except that change means to change it to something else. Not more of the SAME. People see that and immediately jump on the "that makes no sense" wagon. Instead of thinking to themselves that BECAUSE it makes no sense, they are interpreting wrong.
    Going from 1 to 2 is a change. 1 is not the same as 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Going from 1 to 2 is a change. 1 is not the same as 2.
    But going from 1 to 2 is also an increase. You can use different words to indicate different meanings. You wouldn't use the word increase to indicate Crit changing to Determination. So, when you saw what they said, why didn't you ask yourself which it would be if they said only the ilvl was increasing? Why would the ilvl go up, but not the stats, when the quantity of stats on an item are based on the ilvl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    But going from 1 to 2 is also an increase. You can use different words to indicate different meanings. You wouldn't use the word increase to indicate Crit changing to Determination. So, when you saw what they said, why didn't you ask yourself which it would be if they said only the ilvl was increasing? Why would the ilvl go up, but not the stats, when the quantity of stats on an item are based on the ilvl?
    1) I was merely pointing out how you were wrong.
    2) It was a poor choice of words for either Yoshida, or the translator.
    3) iLVL only dictates stat caps, not the literal amount of stats.
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