Coil Turn 5 /weapon level 95 logic

[Pellegri]

Your Relic (80) should be the requirement for starting coil. From there, you have two options for obtaining a level 90 weapon. Either spend three weeks worth of Myths to upgrade your relic (instead of buying armor), or you can obtain the weapon from Coil. It's a matter of time vs difficulty.

Here's the thing though, you are not killing Twintania without most if not all of your group having relic +1. Why should you get something on equal level to relic +1 when a requirement to get a kill is having that +1 already? It's 5 ilvls that you will not notice on any content most likely and yet they felt like they wanted to give people something extra for the several months it takes to gear up for Twin.

They also will be nerfing coil so the weapon will be easier to get. That will be 2.2 however when no one will even care about an ilvl 95 wep when there will be new allagan weps and relic +2 which one of those will most likely be easier to obtain than a nerfed Twintania you have to rely on rng to get the weapon for.

[Lunavi]

This is not a "problem" for me though :P LoliLvl70 shield takes away all possible advantages an iLvl 95 weapon would give anyway... Seriously.. Ancient Buckler plz?

[Serdapi]

Anybody caring that the hardest fight in the game drops the best weapon is just jelly.

[AlphaDragoon]

I have no problem with Allagan weapons being i95, it makes perfect sense considering it's the hardest fight in the game thus far.

What I and a lot of others are annoyed by is that armor and accessories which aren't i95 (and shouldn't be IMO) are still in the Turn 5 loot list. They should be moved off to Turns 1, 2 and 4, as it makes no sense to buff just armor that happens to be in T5 currently and equally no sense for it to be just as hard to get as the i95 weapons. Stuff like the Monk Allagan cuirass should be in the earlier turns SE, weapons in T5 only IMO.

[indira]

Good king moogle mog gives ilvl 80 weapons I think they said which is on par with relic NQ and Titan weapons. Relic has the chance to be made into +1 so it's not gonna put people off getting that, and in the case of Titan most people get their relics soon after killing him so they don't really try for the weapons anyway. The main reason people do Titan is to complete the relic quest making the weapons that drop a bonus for alt jobs you're levelling, or they sell wins of course but most likely if they're selling they'll already have relics.

level 70 weapons, i got 5 of them

[Tupsi]

level 70 weapons, i got 5 of them

They're being boosted to i80 in 2.1 - Since as far as anyone outside of legacy servers knows they never existed yet.

[indira]

They're being boosted to i80 in 2.1 - Since as far as anyone outside of legacy servers knows they never existed yet.

confirmed?
if so im set lol.

[Defmetal]

confirmed?
if so im set lol.

It's been confirmed numerous times. By Yoshi P himself.... It's not hearsay. just search for it.

I'd prefer though that Twintania drops tokens to upgrade relics to +2 though (assuming you had the +1). In addition to the other drops. Some people might prefer upgrading a relic to 95 than say getting a twin weapon - as those change your BiS items around a ton. Though the only way for +2 should come from Twin or equally difficult content ~

[bardaboo]

I dont mind the look. But the run animation is kinda silly looking

[Galactimus]

Twintania is not an easy kill. Even with full i90 gear our party sometimes hits the enrage timer and beats her with seconds to spare. Not to mention the two weeks of practice it takes to master the fight (less now that so many videos are available.) Heck, even Turns 1, 2, and 4 are harder than Titan.

And killing Twintania is only the first step. You then have to hope your weapon even drops. It can take 1-20+ Twintania kills depending on how lucky you are. Then Paladins, Bards, and Black Mages (depending on your party set up) have to lot against each other. There's a good chance players may never even see their Allagan weapon drop before better weapons are released.

In my opinion the weapons should be:
Relic +1 - i85
Allagan - i95
2.1 Weapon - i90

It doesn't make sense to me that this new i90 weapon we get from Extreme Mode primals will be the same level as the weapon we got from Hard Primals (Relic +1). If anything, the Relic +1 needs to be i85 or this new weapon should be i95.