FFXIV: The 1 Job at 50 Monday night raiding 8 man FC game.

[Nonlinear314]

The lockout system mirrors pretty much any modern mmo that is out today.

And that is exactly what is so STUPID about the armory system and why it is deeply flawed.

SE promises a game where you can "do anything at any time" and promotes this armory/class/job system. Then you get to 50 and you realize that this is just a wow clone with the armory laid on top of it. One class, one main, even if you have 8 classes at 50 you are no different that someone with 1 class. In fact you are punished for it compared to the person who rolled an alt and doubled the amount of stuff they can accumulate each week.

It is very poorly thought out.

[Zumi]

cut.

I already posted the solution in the rest of my post which is the same as any other mmo. Level alts. Just forget the ability to level other jobs on the same character exists if you care about having all the top tier gear at the same time.

[ApolloGenX]

I already posted the solution in the rest of my post which is the same as any other mmo. Level alts. Just forget the ability to level other jobs on the same character exists if you care about having all the top tier gear at the same time.

How is that a solution?? How is "ignore the marquis feature touted for this game- because it is worthless" acceptable on any level??

[Nonlinear314]

I already posted the solution in the rest of my post which is the same as any other mmo. Level alts. Just forget the ability to level other jobs on the same character exists if you care having all the top tier gear at the same time.

Then what is the point of the armory system? Why even create it - let alone promote it - if players are punished for using it?

[Zumi]

Then what is the point of the armory system? Why even create it - let alone promote it - if players are punished for using it?

You aren't punished for using it. Level 70 gear is more then adequate for most anything in the game except turn 5. It takes longer to get 90s with 1 character but if you play long enough you will eventually get it nobody in my coil group even needs stuff for their main job anymore full 90s its going to their other jobs now.

[Nonlinear314]

You aren't punished for using it. Level 70 gear is more then adequate for most anything in the game except turn 5. It takes longer to get 90s with 1 character but if you play long enough you will eventually get it nobody in my coil group even needs stuff for their main job anymore full 90s its going to their other jobs now.

Anyone who has the time to grind more than 300 myth tomes a week is punished for using armory when they can roll an alt and get double the amount plus another set of lockouts from now until the foreseeable future when the level cap is finally raised.

You've already said to ignore the armory system now you are saying it's fine. If you want to be an effective white knight then you should try a less schizophrenic argument.

[Zumi]

Anyone who has the time to grind more than 300 myth tomes a week is punished for using armory when they can roll an alt and get double the amount plus another set of lockouts from now until the foreseeable future when the level cap is finally raised.

You've already said to ignore the armory system now you are saying it's fine. If you want to be an effective white knight then you should try a less schizophrenic argument.

No my point is only ignore it, if you care about getting ilvl 90 on all the jobs very quickly. Not everyone cares about doing this. The OP in this topic obviously cares about gearing out his jobs with 90 gear, and doing more coils with his friends. For a person like this I would suggest leveling more characters.

[Nonlinear314]

what else is there to care about post 50 besides gear?

[Zumi]

what else is there to care about post 50 besides gear?

Achievements, crafts, gathering, making gil by crafting and gathering, farming raw mats to sell, leveling chocobo, helping other people get relics, cap myth, spirit bonding to get best materia. Honestly I can find a lot of stuff to do in the game.

[Koku]

Well. We will never know what it's like to not have lockouts at this point in time. Maybe once the game has had a few patches under it's belt, but we could only speculate how our play style would be if there weren't any. So saying something and actually doing it are completely different things. Sure we would like to all believe we would be prepared if the apocalypse happened today, but when shit hits the fan, things change. That is only my opinion, however.