Light/full Party buff

[Rentahamster]

In my subjective opinion (and opinions always are) it's being exploited and needs to be fixed i.e. by making the bonus wear off after one minute unless at least 4 (or 8) players have performed an action.

So you agree that there is a problem here. Good. "Whining" would be unwarranted and misdirected complaining. Good to know that this criticism is neither unwarranted nor misdirected.

And why design content around the buff? I guess to encourage party play, who cares? You are whining over a lolincrease of 5-10% acc, macc, hp and mp.

If the object is to encourage party play, the devs can do that without also encouraging bad behavior.

A 10% boost to those stats is not minor. For a player with 160 accuracy and 2000 HP, a 10% boost is an additional 16 accuracy and 200 HP. That is like wearing an additional 4 Silver Rings and an additional set of Full Plate armor and Mythril Wristlets. That is the difference between killing Dodore quick enough for 2 additional respawns, and only killing Dodore fast enough for 1 respawn.

It is not a "lolincrease", and even if it were, that doesn't justify bad design.

[Ilean]

A 10% boost to those stats is not minor. For a player with 160 accuracy and 2000 HP, a 10% boost is an additional 16 accuracy and 200 HP. That is like wearing an additional 4 Silver Rings and an additional set of Full Plate armor and Mythril Wristlets. That is the difference between killing Dodore quick enough for 2 additional respawns, and only killing Dodore fast enough for 1 respawn.

8 people party = hopefully challenging endgame NMs. And that's why your whining is out of place, we have still to experience the new content.

Keep QQing.

[Choc]

None of the NM's now should be considered End Game.

why do people act as if current NM is going to be the only content and upcoming NMs going to be as easy as current NMs?

I suppose it was my fault when I made the thread. I never should have added the comment about NMs and im sorry, it wasnt what I was trying to get across.

I dont understand why they give a large boost in the buff from light to full party, thus rewarding you for filling out your party but dont have any restrictions on it, I think they need restrictions or change it so its just "party buff" and you get the full buff at 3 members. Its not gamebreaking, and not at top of changes I want but at the same time I thought it was odd they didnt have those at the start nor do I think it would be hard to change.

And to people saying its not a big boost I really dont understand. Theres no other buff or gear in the game that comes even close to 200 hp/mp and 10% accuracy, thats actually pretty significant. Like I said I was thinking more towards when things become difficult and if you have something available to you to give a higher chance at completing that nm at the end of a dungeon then why not? Its not like its hard to add a couple crafters in your ls to get that full party bonus.

Its something I can really see being abused if people are having any trouble.

[LillithaFenimore]

I havn't done any light/heavy partying, however, I would say keep the buffs...they are eventually going to add harder NM's....of if they do away with buffs they should most likely balance everything out to coordinate with the amount of players in the light/heavy parties.

[Rentahamster]

8 people party = hopefully challenging endgame NMs.

Which doesn't require the need for having a global party buff mechanic in place.

It's telling that you say "hopefully". You base your arguments on a hypothetical hope whereas I'm basing them on actual realities that we see now.

[Ilean]

You base your arguments on a hypothetical hope whereas I'm basing them on actual realities that we see now.

I am basing my arguments on the announced future of the game. You are whining your QQs based on its current broken state, and everyone agrees it will die if not changed soon.